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Time the U.S. came to terms with 'humiliation' in Iran: Brzezinski
Tehran Times ^ | November 7, 2004 | IRNA

Posted on 11/06/2004 7:25:35 PM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John

LONDON (IRNA) -- Former National Security Adviser to the Carter Administration, Zbigniew Brzezinski, suggested Saturday that the U.S. should finally come to terms with the takeover of the American Embassy in Iran after 25 years.

It is time to start closing that chapter of "humiliation" that Americans felt so strongly about instead of remaining haunted by the memories, Brzezinski said.

In an interview with the Financial Times, he believed that there must eventually be "some accommodation" and that the west may even have to learn to live with Iran as a nuclear power as it did with China and later with India and Pakistan.

The aide, who served President Jimmy Carter during the takeover of the U.S. Embassy following the Islamic Revolution in Iran, was questioned on the differences between the U.S. and the European Union approach to Iran's nuclear program.

"There are people in this administration who would like to attack Iran. The neo-cons fall into this category," Brzezinski told the paper.

But he warned that the use of force will "unify" Iran.

Although hawks like the U.S. under-secretary for arms control, John Bolton, are tipped for promotion, the former National Security Advisor said that moderate Republicans do not expect a significant policy shift following President George W. Bush's re-election.

"I prefer to think the Bush administration is not determined to make a habit of shooting itself in the foot. Hopefully it learned from the miscalculations of its Iraq policy," he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: appeasement; axisofevil; brzezinski; bungler; guiltyparty; incompetence; iran; jimmycarter; loser; malaise; napalminthemorning; negligence; religionofpeace; submission; wot; zbigniewbrzezinski
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

I kind of wonder of some of the other posters might be on to something. Maybe something's up, and the overthrow of the mullahs in Iran is in the works. It would be another slap in the collective face of past liberal failures, and their present delusional apologists.


22 posted on 11/06/2004 7:39:14 PM PST by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: CaptRon

Ziggy is another tired, discredited voice of the appeasement wing of US politics. His Carter administration contributed immeasurably to all of Islamic terrorism in the past 25 years. Had the Shah been supported rather than abandoned, we never would have seen anywhere near the same extent of Islamo-fascist terrorism. Hezbollah and Iran's so-called "Revolutionary Guards" have spread much of the funding, weapons and training which enabled terrorism to become such a scourge. We had a bulwark against Islamic extremism in the Shah and his military, but they weren't politically correct enough for Jimmy Peanut....


23 posted on 11/06/2004 7:39:54 PM PST by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John; All; Enterprise; digger48; Ken522; AndyJackson; Brilliant; Death and Taxes; ..
Don't forget the recent mass demonstration by Iranian-Americans/Americans/FR


24 posted on 11/06/2004 7:40:20 PM PST by freedom44
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

I'm embarrassed by Jimmah Carter. Maybe he could do another Playboy interview.


25 posted on 11/06/2004 7:41:55 PM PST by airborne (Death Before Dishonor)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
A grave site out at Desert One awaits this clown. Do these F'ing clowns think we forget?

Go play golf with that nut the peanut farmer and give thanks that you weren't on that mission designed by him.

26 posted on 11/06/2004 7:43:15 PM PST by Joe Miner
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Oh, no wonder! I just looked at the source. That explains everything.


27 posted on 11/06/2004 7:44:02 PM PST by airborne (Death Before Dishonor)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Hey Ziggy, It was you and Jimbo that let it happen in the first place.


28 posted on 11/06/2004 7:44:56 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
What a piece of crap this guy is ! Humiliated Hell I was for nuking the place back then..
29 posted on 11/06/2004 7:46:11 PM PST by Fast1 (Kerry Con "My only regret is I have but one Country to destroy for my presidency”)
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To: AndyJackson

How about "paleo-moron"????
That would fit all of the Carter-leftovers who have learned nothing in the past 25 years.

I will never forget the early days of the hostage crisis -- I thought the US would be making the strongest possible threats behind the scenes that the government of Khomeini would cease to exist if the hostages weren't safely returned NOW. As the thing dragged on, it quickly became apparent that Carter was more naive than Chamberlain (at least Hitler hadn't taken a British embassy hostage when Chamberlain proclaimed "peace in our time"). Learning of Carter's absurdities, such as appealing to Khomeini as a fellow "man of faith" shows the bottomless idiocy of the Carter mindset....


30 posted on 11/06/2004 7:48:35 PM PST by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

He wants to go to Arafat's funeral with Carter


31 posted on 11/06/2004 7:53:43 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Well, that explains the total uselessness of Carter's foreign policy. I don't think we ought to forget it; Iran certainly hasn't!


32 posted on 11/06/2004 7:55:36 PM PST by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we are Americans!!!!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

"It is time to start closing that chapter of "humiliation" that Americans felt so strongly about instead of remaining haunted by the memories, Brzezinski said."

Sure, Brzezinski...you nimrod. That way everyone will forget this happened on your watch!


33 posted on 11/06/2004 7:59:05 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Brzezinski? So that's where he went. Guess nobody wanted to listen to him in America anymore.


34 posted on 11/06/2004 8:02:50 PM PST by ohCompGk
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To: FreedomCalls
The slogan "America cannot do a damn thing" became the basis of all strategies worked out by Islamist militant groups

They need to seriously rethink them strategeries, 'cuz America is under new management and not only can, but will do a great many "damn things" before the dust settles.

35 posted on 11/06/2004 8:05:28 PM PST by macbee ("Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: Dan Middleton

we are the neocons...
we are coming to get you 'ziggy'.
we are your worst nightmare... people with living convictions AND a 'screw-the-socialists' backbone.


36 posted on 11/06/2004 8:06:18 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election... failed.)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

"Why has this guy popped up all of a sudden, after all these years?"


He HAD HOPED for a position in the KERRY adminstration, haha


37 posted on 11/06/2004 8:09:20 PM PST by RedMonqey (Keep RIGHT or get LEFT behind!!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
America wasn't "humiliated"... carter and the RATS were!!! Reagan got them back and Reagan WAS America.
38 posted on 11/06/2004 8:36:59 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Hell this man was part of the operation to return the Khomeini to Iran. What great thinking that was.
39 posted on 11/06/2004 10:35:33 PM PST by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

i read this as we must forget about the utter stupidity of carters policies, that led to the hostages. And make the same mistake when dealing with the nuke weaps issue.

no thanks


40 posted on 11/06/2004 10:50:29 PM PST by Casaubon (huh??)
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