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Baffled in Loss, Democrats Seek Road Forward
The New York Times ^
| 11/07/04
| ADAM NAGOURNEY
Posted on 11/06/2004 11:47:08 AM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
"We really need to work on the question of what we are for," said Walter F. Mondale Understatement of the century. On the other hand, they are liberals so they will work on it, then come out with the same agenda of pro abortion, pro regulation, pro big government, pro anything goes society.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:16:04 PM PST
by
Casloy
To: Pokey78
Will Democrats follow in what Nancy Pelosi announced: a continuing fight for the same old agenda.
We'll see what those 17 democratic Senators up for election in 2006 are going to vote for.
At stake: Make tax cuts permanent, partially privatize Social Security to leave something for the currently young but future retirees, simplify the tax code and start exploring for oil in Alaska, natural gas there and within the U.S. mainland
Appointing judges that uphold the constitution instead of making new laws. Tort reform to free health care from greedy lawyers and bring costs down.
Obstructionist Daschle is gone. Future senatorial filibusterers/obstructionists might have to think about writing their resignation papers in 2006. Progressive replacements are in waiting.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:16:12 PM PST
by
hermgem
To: Cicero
And Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana said: ... "Too often we're caricatured as a bicoastal cultural elite that is condescending at best and contemptuous at worst to the values that Americans hold in their daily lives." Not 'caricatured' but 'aptly described' .
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:18:41 PM PST
by
RightField
(The older you get ... the older "old" is !)
To: hermgem
The dims got a real problem. According to exit polls, over 4.5 million homosexuals voted. This is a huge voting bloc for them to pi$$ off.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:21:03 PM PST
by
umgud
(Donate monthly, don't be a Freeploader)
To: Pokey78
![](http://img30.exs.cx/img30/3974/monk_color-small.jpg)
And Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana said:
"We need to be a party that stands for more than the sum of our resentments. In the heartland, where I am from, there are doubts. Too often we're caricatured as a bicoastal cultural elite that is condescending at best and contemptuous at worst to the values that Americans hold in their daily lives." Bayh almost gets it, except he needs to understand that it's not a caricature... it's the truth.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:22:38 PM PST
by
bootyist-monk
(<--------------------- Republican Attack Machine)
To: Pokey78
They think coming within 3% of the President isn't so bad. Let's explain this simply, so even protesting 'Rat college students will understand.
You got only 38% of the states!! You are lucky you have 44 Senators!! If anything, over time you will lose more. How do you ever expect to get back the Senate? Without the Senate, you won't be able to accomplish much even if you do win the Presidency!
Now that we'll be able to break filibusters, the Republicans are inevitable, so you may as well lie back and enjoy it.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:24:29 PM PST
by
You Dirty Rats
(31 Red States - All Your Senate Are Belong To Us!!)
To: Pokey78
"And Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana said: "We need to be a party that stands for more than the sum of our resentments. In the heartland, where I am from, there are doubts. Too often we're caricatured as a bicoastal cultural elite that is condescending at best and contemptuous at worst to the values that Americans hold in their daily lives."
![](http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/224/224535/folders/164132/1273085USA-09.gif)
Democratic rally poster on 11/3:
![](http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_november_3_2004/143-4328_IMG.JPG)
Now tell me again how they are going to show that they aren't contempuous of American values in the Heartland, Senator Bayh...
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:25:48 PM PST
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: bootyist-monk
The 'Rats caricature themselves. And, actually, the caricature isn't true. If the bicoastal cultural elite and the Euros think we're all uneducated fat stupid bumpkins from the Midwest and South, why have they adopted Michael Moore as their hero?
Above all else, they are hopelessly confused!!
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:27:04 PM PST
by
You Dirty Rats
(31 Red States - All Your Senate Are Belong To Us!!)
To: Pokey78
Too often we're caricatured as a bicoastal cultural elite that is condescending at best and contemptuous at worst to the values that Americans hold in their daily lives."Ya got that right Sanator Bayh..that's a TRUE assessment of you DemoncRATS!
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:27:12 PM PST
by
timestax
To: Southack
Just look at the supercilious tilt of that guys head. It just doesn't quite fit with the mindless hatred in his eyes. Sad evidence of how pathetic they really are.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:28:48 PM PST
by
You Dirty Rats
(31 Red States - All Your Senate Are Belong To Us!!)
To: Pokey78
5 stages of grief.
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance
I'm afraid some won't make it all the way through.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:35:17 PM PST
by
Only1choice____Freedom
("Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers; pray for powers equal to your tasks,"-President Bush)
To: Pokey78
You have to feel sorry for America's democrat party. It has been rudderless since the fall of the Soviet Union and the loss of communist guidance, direction and orders. Oh, sure, lots of the same people are still in dem leadership positions but they don't think well for themselves.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:38:25 PM PST
by
Tacis
(Kerry - You Can't Make A Silk Purse Out Of A Lazy, Lying, Elitist Scumbag!)
To: Pokey78
How did a party that is filled with people with values - and I am a person with values - get tagged as the party without values?Bwwaaahahahahahahaha...talk about clueless. Sure, yep, people filled with values, like Michael Moore, Barbara Streisand, Ben Afleck, Roseanne Barr, Rosie O'Donnell, P.Diddy, and all the rest of the entertainment industry libertines. And how about all those Leftist hate-America freaks who love to march in the streets? Oh, and the DEMOCRAT Mayor of San Francisco totally ignoring the law of the state and "marrying" homosexuals.
Then there's the Vermont and Massachuetts supreme courts which ORDERED THEIR STATE LEGISLATURES to come up with homosexual marriage schemes. And those state legislatures complied instead of telling the courts to take a flying leap, which would have been the proper thing to do. Earth to Dem Leftists: the legislature is a separate branch of government which does not have to take orders from the judicial branch.
The list of where the Left/Dems are out of touch with this country is so long that it would take hours to cover it all, let alone correct. So I hope they all do move to Canada or France or New Zealand. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:40:32 PM PST
by
Wolfstar
(Yippeeeee!!!! A great election victory AND a new puppy in the White House. Life is good.)
To: calex59
...valuing dead babies...Leftist Dems also value dead voters. They are the party of the dead.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:44:22 PM PST
by
Wolfstar
(Yippeeeee!!!! A great election victory AND a new puppy in the White House. Life is good.)
To: Pokey78
Gov. Jennifer M. Granholm, Democrat of Michigan, said that in order to be competitive with Republicans, Democrats had to have a message that was ''strong and strongly pro-work, pro-responsibility, pro-duty, pro-service, pro-child, pro-seniors."Anything but pro-life, right, Granholm?
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:44:29 PM PST
by
NYpeanut
(gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
To: Pokey78
memo to Kerry, Begala, Micheal Moore, and any other liberals, yes you are liberals, even you John Kerry:
socialism is NOT what Americans mean when we talk about values. Figure this out, and you'll have something.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:46:37 PM PST
by
votelife
(Arlen Specter needs to be removed from the Judiciary Committee!)
To: votelife
It's a whole lot of fun observing how clueless the Left is.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:47:58 PM PST
by
blitzgig
To: Southack
Hi Southack. That's quite a photo. I think I'll print it in color and send it to the entire California congressional delegation, along with Bayh's quote.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:50:12 PM PST
by
Wolfstar
(Yippeeeee!!!! A great election victory AND a new puppy in the White House. Life is good.)
To: calex59
in a world Dem values equal socialism. They want the voters to ignore the elephant in the room of partial birth abortion.
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:51:00 PM PST
by
votelife
(Arlen Specter needs to be removed from the Judiciary Committee!)
To: Pokey78
All they have to do is Fire Terry McAuliffe, give the job to an adult like Zell Miller, and in 6 to 8 years the Dems will have a strong, vibrant party again."Duh"
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posted on
11/06/2004 12:52:41 PM PST
by
Psycho_Bunny
(“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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