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Kids are Overrated
No Marriage.com ^ | 11/05/04 | Embittered Young Guy

Posted on 11/05/2004 11:52:42 AM PST by iheartusa

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To: Hildy
Not exactly, but close. I respect his choices for the reasons stated. What I did not appreciate was the writer's apparent lack of respect for those who made different choices.
81 posted on 11/05/2004 12:15:28 PM PST by MagnumRancid (I cut it three times......It's still too short!)
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To: iheartusa

Other than the emotional roller coaster of love,love and more love I get from my children,they are a real pain....I can see this guys point and it's on his head.


82 posted on 11/05/2004 12:15:31 PM PST by oust the louse
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To: .38sw

"Actually, I did know someone years ago who had a baby and was really not happy after the fact. Her husband was thrilled, she was not."

There is a name for that. It is called post-partum depression. It is normal. It is common. It can be treated in a variety of ways.

Also, not every parent has an instant bond with their children the instant they are born. Many regard them as little strangers that they have to get to know. Some people have their overwhelming breakthrough in love when the children are older.

My father and I were not close until I was a grown man and we could talk to each other like men. Our mutual love and respect now knows no bounds. My youngest son is six years old, and while I have always loved him, it is only in the last year or so that our relationship has really blossomed. I did not experience that with his older brother.

Not everyone is a "perfect" parent or has a perfect disposition towards their kids the moment they are born. That doesn't maek them bad people. Remember that each person is a total of their nature, their upbringing and their experiences.


83 posted on 11/05/2004 12:15:43 PM PST by osboy
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To: freedumb2003

My kids go to private school. I pay double for everyone elses. I am consistent in that I don't support government schools. But that is a different thread.


84 posted on 11/05/2004 12:15:45 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

I have been divorced for a year now. I have done absolutely nothing wrong for a whole year. It is amazing. I was married for 22 years. I spent 22 years doing everything wrong. I finally figured it out. She was very pretty on the outside, and I got hooked on that. The sex was incredible. Was the sex and good looks worth it. I still can’t decide.


85 posted on 11/05/2004 12:15:58 PM PST by FoxPro (jroehl2@yahoo.com)
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To: iheartusa
I wonder how this article would read if the author wrote it in his eighties, looking back on his life.


"A hundred years from now it will not matter what my bank account was,
the sort of house I lived in, or the kind of car I drove...
but the world may be different because I was important in the life of a child."

86 posted on 11/05/2004 12:16:38 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: iheartusa

Well I for one can identify with this guy.I have one mostly grown son on my own whom I love dearly mostly because he no longer lives with me and then I managed to marry into another 4.Most of the time I can think of nothing positive about the experiance.For the most part children have contributed nothing to my life except added expense and more unpaid thankless work.I can't wait to marry off our two remaining obnoxious..er I mean wonderfull teen age daughters.Any takers?


87 posted on 11/05/2004 12:16:56 PM PST by edchambers
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To: freedumb2003

How is this any different than paying for public schools when you either homeschool or send your kids to private/parochial school?

If you're against paying school tax, you could always vote against it. But I think wise members of society realize that the welfare of the next generation has great personal significance as well. When you will be 90, the doctors and nurses treating you will be the same kids (or grandkids) who were educated with your tax money.


88 posted on 11/05/2004 12:17:05 PM PST by astonberry
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To: Hildy

He's not the messenger. He is a jerk who is espousing his opinion with no experience to draw on. How can someone who has no children assume to know how people with children feel?

I once thought that I didn't want children. Not to the degree of this selfish dork, but I was convinced that having a child would be a pain.

Then I had one, and I could not imagine my life without her.

If he was correct, there should be a large percentage of parents who's children are lost in some tragedy, who stand by the casket with a smile on their faces. I've never seen it...


89 posted on 11/05/2004 12:17:28 PM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: elizabetty

No, probably not. I once stumbled on a child-free website and it was sad. These people don't think their lives have much worth or significance either and think, what's the big whoop if my parents had decided not to have me?


90 posted on 11/05/2004 12:18:22 PM PST by astonberry
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To: RosieCotton

Because this is the first day I have ever posted to Free Republic and I evidently haven't grasped the subtleties of the posting system. :-)

I thought I was replying to the parent topic.


91 posted on 11/05/2004 12:18:43 PM PST by osboy
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To: Modernman
He's not just saying he hasn't chosen to have a family. He's angry and upset with people who do, and thinks people in GENERAL should not be having families. He's condescending towards people who do. That rankles.

i.e. Lines like this:

I think most people end up having kids because 1) They're too stupid to know how to use birth control properly and/or 2) They have an idealistic, completely unrealistic vision of what parenthood entails.

92 posted on 11/05/2004 12:18:44 PM PST by RosieCotton (He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative. - GKC)
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To: freedumb2003

My husband and I don't have kids either, but the pressure from family is fairly annoying.

I like kids fine and enjoy playing with my nieces, but hubby and I are enjoying the romance of being a couple (nearly 12 years!)


93 posted on 11/05/2004 12:19:28 PM PST by TheFilter
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To: iheartusa

His type does not concern me in the long run - for his genes and memes (ideas) will not be passed on ... but mine will.

Reproduction vs. recruitment.


94 posted on 11/05/2004 12:19:36 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: osboy
Because this is the first day I have ever posted to Free Republic and I evidently haven't grasped the subtleties of the posting system. :-)

No prob...I noticed after I posted that you were new.

Welcome to FR!

95 posted on 11/05/2004 12:20:36 PM PST by RosieCotton (He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative. - GKC)
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To: camle

Unfortunately I have. Frankly, if a parent has this attitude, they seriously do need to keep it to themselves.


96 posted on 11/05/2004 12:21:10 PM PST by iheartusa
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To: Hildy

I feel this way but without the hositility. I've never wanted kids, even when I was a kid. I didn't like baby dolls. I preferred Barbie because she was a grown up and could do whatever she wanted (or I made her). I didn't babysit as a teenager because I didn't enjoy children. My husband and I know we wouldn't be happy with kids in our life. Thank goodness there are plenty of people who adore children. I happen not to be one of them.


97 posted on 11/05/2004 12:21:10 PM PST by itslex71 (southern by birth, republican by the grace of my dad)
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To: iheartusa

Why is he so embittered then? He should be thrilled.


98 posted on 11/05/2004 12:21:19 PM PST by ladylib
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To: osboy
There is a name for that. It is called post-partum depression

How long does post-partum depression last? The child was well over a year old, and the mother seemed kind of bitter. And I didn't mean to imply that she was a bad parent, she seemed to be taking very good care of the boy. As I said, he was a very happy and sweet child.

99 posted on 11/05/2004 12:21:44 PM PST by .38sw
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To: astonberry
When you will be 90, the doctors and nurses treating you will be the same kids (or grandkids) who were educated with your tax money

And in some cases this might be rather scary. Sorry, couldn't resist. Will stop the rabbit trail topic now.

100 posted on 11/05/2004 12:22:22 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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