Girl Hiding In Leaf Pile Dies After Father Parks Car On Top Of Her

WFTV.com ^ | 11/4/2004 | AP

[Protagoras]

Your the one who is pickled..

Not yet, I don't leave for the resturant for another 45 minutes

Where do you live Hooterberry?

No telling what that means.

Give it a rest sister, you have made an ass of yourself enough for one day.

[missyme]

opinions are like you know what everyone has one....

I thought you were trying to be nice for the start of the weekend...

[Protagoras]

That IS my idea of being nice. I'm a curmudgeon.

[KansasConservative1]

Nice...

[beezdotcom]

I can see any number of reasons why one drives over a pile of leaves, but the responsibility for any mishaps that occur is on the driver for not knowing what's in his path.

guy ran over my neighbor's cat. not his fault, the cat tried to run past as he was putting along (he WAS putting, 15 mph tops), and went splat. The guy took the cat to my neighbor, and accepted responsibility since he was the operator of the vehicle. not hsi fault, but his responsibility.

First, let's get our nomenclature straight. Sometimes you seem to use fault and responsibility interchangeably, and sometimes you keep them distinct. Your first example uses it in the context of fault, but your second example separates the two.

Negligence is fault. You've repeatedly said the guy has been negligent. You've consistently been finding fault.

If I tell you nobody is in the bathroom, and you open the door on them, were you negligent? I can think of several scenarios where the guy should have known there was a likelihood of kids in the leaves, and I can think of several where he could easily believe there wasn't such a likelihood. Both set of scenarios would be equally consistent with this thin article almost completely devoid of useful details.

Tell you what - why don't you just call the guy and get those missing details, so you can prove that you're correct in assessing his negligence?

[gimme1ibertee]

Nope....Don't think so.
If you're going to analyze a situation,you have to take all the variables into account.All the possiblities I gave are plausible.As for the other child in the hospital,of course I would pray for them.
I'm not dumb, y'know.

[truecons]

But from the "Strange News Photos" section on the same page:

 

 

 

 

PHUKET, Thailand -- A devotee to the Chinese Shrine of Jui Tui in Phuket, Thailand, has his face pierced by a bicycle and helped by others as he takes part in the annual Vegetarian Festival. Ritual Vegetarianism in Phuket traces it roots back to the early 1800's. The festival begins on the first evening of the ninth lunar month and lasts for nine days. Participants in the festival perform acts of body piercing as a means of shifting evil spirits from individuals onto themselves. (10/20/04 AP photo)

 

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At a press conference Friday, John Kerry was shown the photo, and he surprised reporters by stating that he had not only taken his swift boat into Cambodia, but that one lost weekend he actually found himself and his crew in that same city in Thailand. He was asked if he had fond memories of his trip.

 

Unfortunately, in the confusion another reporter simultaneously asked him to describe his post-election mood. Not sure which question he was answering, reporters gazed at each other in stunned silence when Kerry responded, "Ahhhhh...Phuket".

 

 

 

                              

[missyme]

[cantfindagoodscreenname]

Thanks! I wonder if anyone will come back here to see it. Should we ping everyone? :-) I'm interested in your opinion. Do you think it looks like a big pile that you wouldn't drive over? I know I would have driven over it before today. It is not what I'd call a huge pile of leaves. It took about one minute to pile those leaves up. The only problem I had was the wind that kept blowing leaves off of the top of it.

[missyme]

Sure you can ping...What state do you live in?
Yes I eould think a pile of leaves would start blowing all over the place..living in San Diego I really don't see the beautiful fall leaves just a bunch of palm frons

[MHT]

That's a pretty shallow bunch of leaves to be hiding in. This is a very tragic story that has absolutely haunted me all day.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

One of the basic rules of driving (that my father taught me, anyway) was never to drive through piles of leaves, whether they are in a driveway or along a curb. For just this very reason.

[cantfindagoodscreenname]

What state do you live in?

I live in New Hampshire. We're on leaf overload here right now. The city where the girl was killed is about a half an hour from me in Massachusetts.

[Lockbar]

Didn't this happen before a few years back? Also another kid killed? I think the kids where inside a leaf pile on the curb side of a street, and a car drove through the pile. I think of that everytime I see a leaf pile near the side of a road.

[TChris]

So very tragic when these kind of things happen. A certain degree of paranoia when driving is healthy, IMO.

[stands2reason]

I don't see the word "truck" in the title.

[missyme]

Oh I am sorry to hear that!!!
I hear New Hampshire and Vermont is very beautiful at this time of year...GOD Bless this family...

[mitch5501]

Very very sad.

It's not hard to imagine coming home,maybe you have visitors parked in your drive,you don't want to leave your truck out on the road so you pull off the side of your drive and park in a few piles of leaves on top of slightly lumpy soil.Maybe it had been raining and the ground was soft? It would help explain how a little girl could speak with a truck parked on her.

This family must be going through absolute hell and folks are already pointing fingers,good grief!

It's EASY to imagine how this could happen with zero culpability on anyone's part.

God is able to hold them up,I sure hope they can take that.

[Ciexyz]

How terribly tragic. Pass the word.

[cajun-jack]

who knows?? article didn't say, but the dad may have parked in his usual spot and the kids had raked the leaves into a pile in his spot, not thinking about him coming home so soon.

my oldest granddaughter is 11 and she doesn't wear a watch all the time..and never at home when out of school, cause her "off time" is supposed to be for just fun!!

I am sorry for the man. To lose a child would be horrific. To be the cause of death of 1 of your children, for me, would be absolutely devasting.