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Coulter: One last flip-flop
TownHall.com ^ | November 4, 2004 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 11/04/2004 7:13:08 PM PST by RabbitMan

Of course, we could have done it a lot earlier on election night but for "Boy Genius" Karl Rove. It's absurd that the election was as close as it was. If Rove is "the architect" – as Bush called him in his acceptance speech – then he is the architect of high TV ratings, not a Republican victory.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1bitch; 1whining; 2clueless; bunchajealouswhiners; bush; bushvictory; coulter; election; electionday; rove
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To: Norman Bates

She's right that the gay marriage issue could heve made this an electoral landslide. But what the heck, a win is a win.


81 posted on 11/04/2004 7:42:31 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: diane in IL
You're misunderstanding me. I'm commenting on what Ann Coulter wrote in the piece. Here:

"Seventy percent to 80 percent of Americans oppose gay marriage and partial-birth abortion. Far from appealing exclusively to a narrow Republican base, opposition to gay marriage is strongest among the Democratic base: blacks, Hispanics, blue-collar workers and the elderly. There were marriage amendments on the ballot in Michigan and Ohio. Bush won Ohio narrowly and lost Michigan by only 2 points. How different might that have been if Bush hadn't run from the issue."

She thinks that Bush didn't hit those issues hard enough, and she might be right, although it's a moot point since Bush won. I meant that those issues are the same in that they're winners for us and Bush should stress them, not run away from them to appeal to moderates.

82 posted on 11/04/2004 7:42:52 PM PST by Batrachian
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To: RabbitMan
That's why you stick to the original title, and search on it first.

Sorry about that. I did a search on Coulter and Rove, but did not see the previous post.

83 posted on 11/04/2004 7:43:46 PM PST by Ready4Freddy (Carpe Sharpei !)
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To: RabbitMan
This election should have been over sometime in August, not 1 a.m. election night.

Ann is by far my favorite columnist but I think she is off base here. I have never seen such a determined Democrat effort in all my life, start to finish. Those people were rabid. Scary rabid. And Rove won this critical Presidential election. Rove IS a genius.

84 posted on 11/04/2004 7:44:21 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RabbitMan

Armchair BS ...shoulda coulda woulda


85 posted on 11/04/2004 7:44:32 PM PST by woofie
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To: Norman Bates
I expected a well-padded lead in electoral votes, with WI or MN and PA or NJ to go to the President, but I am just happy to know the results the day after and not have a repeat of 2000 (hearing the liars say Bush didn't win popular vote or that he's illegitimately elected).

It did get pretty close in several states, but even without Ohio, the total is 266 - so if New Hampshire or any of the close states had come through, it would have put the President over the top anyway. Given all the fraud on the DUmmocrats behalf, it's hard to win in die-hard liberal land.

86 posted on 11/04/2004 7:45:44 PM PST by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: All

Folks, it's almost as if Ann is suffering from "Narcissistic Rove Envy." What's wrong with this woman?! Now she wants to "eat her own!" During my life, I've met a few people with this same personality disorder. DANGER WILL ROBINSON!


87 posted on 11/04/2004 7:49:00 PM PST by PatriotBill
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To: RabbitMan

I agree. Rove is a closet "moderate".


88 posted on 11/04/2004 7:49:31 PM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: Batrachian
Ann has a point. Conservative issues win, and Republican politicians should espouse them. Look how angry we all where when Bush said he would sign the Assault Weapons Ban extension. We knew it was the wrong position both morally and politically. Gay marriage and partial birth abortion are the same. Did Bush really say that he supports civil unions? That's pretty shocking.
Ann gets paid to be controversial on purpose. >:)

Bush's implicit message on the AWB was if they could get it past the House committee he'd sign it. A very big "if" LOL.

Bush and Rove realize that the GOP coalition is fundamentally divided. The "Christian Coalition" came through this year and is important, but so are the "small l libertarians".

-Eric

89 posted on 11/04/2004 7:49:50 PM PST by E Rocc (Flipper is floating upside down in Lake Erie.)
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To: RabbitMan
Ann is rarely wrong, but this is one of those times. Bush won handily. He increased the numbers in both the House and the Senate in a re-election bid.

When did a Republican last do that, Ann?

Did you guess William McKinley?

90 posted on 11/04/2004 7:49:50 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: SeasideSparrow

We squeaked by . . <<<
Squeaky like a chicken's neck?
Some chicken.
Some neck.


91 posted on 11/04/2004 7:50:11 PM PST by alcuin (getridofthateffinlooselipssinkshipsgesture)
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To: RabbitMan

A needs a long vacation in the carribean.....with me......in the same hotel room.


92 posted on 11/04/2004 7:50:39 PM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: RasterMaster

It is clear that Rove was wrong to support Specter.


93 posted on 11/04/2004 7:51:31 PM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: areafiftyone
Is that woman ever happy? I like Ann, don't get me wrong but why is she being obnoxious?

Happily married myself, but I've wondered from time to time what it would be like to be married to Ann. I'd hate to ever get on her bad side, and it's impossible to be a man in a relationship with a woman and not end up there.

94 posted on 11/04/2004 7:51:59 PM PST by kezekiel
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To: RabbitMan

I see a lot of eyes wide shut here. Ann makes a perfectly valid point: social conservatives, the BLACK sheep faction of the Republican party, showed up in DROVES and made the difference for Bush. To ignore this fact is to give Hillary the victory in '08.


95 posted on 11/04/2004 7:52:54 PM PST by kidkosmic1 (www.InterviewwithGod.com)
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To: E Rocc

Do the libertarians put social issues before social issues?


96 posted on 11/04/2004 7:54:09 PM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: RabbitMan

I'd like to see Ms. Coulter just try to run a national campaign. She wasn't even to get the Libertarian nomination for a US House seat.


97 posted on 11/04/2004 7:55:20 PM PST by JohnBDay
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To: RobbyS

OOOOPs "social issues BEFORE TAX CUTS?


98 posted on 11/04/2004 7:55:43 PM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: RabbitMan

I don't know about Rove, but I know that the Bush legal team sucked and hurt the campaign. First, they thought that McCain-Feingold would be overturned by the Supreme Court, so that the parties would still be able to raise and spend soft money and they wouldn't need GOP leaning 527s. The Democrats, though, set theirs up and started raising money. Then the Supreme Court upheld CFR, and the Republicans were way behind the 8 ball. Rather than try to catch up immediately, though, they launched a legal challenge claiming all 527s were illegal, even though the Supreme Court has specifically said that they were OK under McCain-Feingold. Not only didn't they didn't have a sound legal case, but they then ignored the fact that the Federal Election Commission, led by its two most conservative Republican members, Bradley Smith and David Mason, made clear as early as February that the the FEC believed that the law did not prohibit 527s. Still, the Republican lawyers kept scaring away GOP donors by claiming giving to 527s could get them sent to jail, while the Democrats kept racking up a dollar advantage. When the Republican lawyers finally gave up their legal challenges, the party was way behind the Democrat 527s, and never did catch up.

Then Bush-Cheney's chief lawyer, Ben Ginsberg, decides to sign on as lawyer for the most effective Republican-leaning 527, the Swift Boat Vets. What a stupid thing to do, allowing the Democrats to charge illegal collusion between the Swift Vets and the campaign, and giving the media a hook to discredit the Swift Vets. Ginsberg's been around Washington, and should have seen that coming.

The Republicans need to fire some lawyers.


99 posted on 11/04/2004 7:56:36 PM PST by Gen. Longstreet
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Notice that Karl Rove is more of a "behind the scenes" political genius...Ann's ego needs to be in the spotlight. My advice to you Ann: "STFU, get some horizontal refreshment, and concentrate on Hillary!"


100 posted on 11/04/2004 7:56:45 PM PST by PatriotBill
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