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To: Always Right

You are falling for the MSM abortion trap. Hook line and sinker.

What's the goal?


22 posted on 11/04/2004 10:18:43 AM PST by snooker (Bush 2004 --- stay with the strong horse)
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To: snooker

You should have heard Specter's victory speech yesterday. He went on and on about his victory being a victory for the moderate Republicans in the party.

Forget about the fact that he squeaked by the conservative Pat Toomey in the primary (who had very little outside support and money to back him up).

I would bet that in the race against Hoffel, Specter had to get a lot of votes from Democrats in order to win. His speaks freely of his moderate views and acts like he is the one who best represents the Republican party not the likes of us.


24 posted on 11/04/2004 10:23:37 AM PST by IrishBrewer
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To: snooker
You are falling for the MSM abortion trap. Hook line and sinker. What's the goal?

No, I am just not falling for Specters lies and deception. Judicial nominees are the Number 1 issue of many conservative voters. Specter is 180 degrees out of phase with conservatives on this. Specter's position is identical to Kerry's. If we let Specter become the Chairman of the Judiciary, we will have defeated a main reason for electing Bush. Why should the GOP have a hand in putting up the biggest obsticles for Bush's nominees? Your position makes no sense. Specter's opposition to Bush's nominees are well known.

30 posted on 11/04/2004 10:28:15 AM PST by Always Right
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To: snooker

"You are falling for the MSM abortion trap. Hook line and sinker."

If you think that abortion is simply a "trap" set by the MSM, then I think you need to re-evaluate your ideals. Abortion is an incredibly important issue that literally affects the lives of millions. If we can't fight for it because the MSM might use that fight against us, then all hope is lost that sanity might return to the Judiciary.

However, please re-read the text of my letter. I only mention abortion in terms of the fight over partial birth abortion. Don't get me wrong, I think abortion-on-demand is evil and should be abolished, but abortion is only one of the issues that I think is important.

In addition to abortion issues, the SCOTUS over the next decade could decide cases that affect the definition of marriage, the place of religion in the public square, free speech rights of conservative and religious groups, the right to freely bear arms, the right of free association of various groups such as the Boy Scouts and Campus Religious Groups, etc. It is quite conceivable that they could even address free speech rights involving conservatives in Talk Radio and other media (including the internet). Activist judges who rise to the SCOTUS as staunch defenders of Roe v. Wade, would be much more likely to legislate from the bench on such issues, and their decisions would probably not be too popular here or in simliar forums. Liberal judges aren't simply interested in maintaining the status quo when it comes to abortion. They are also interested in socially re-engineering our entire society.

So in answer to your charge, no! You are the one falling for the MSM abortion trap. If we don't fight we'll never win.


37 posted on 11/04/2004 10:39:44 AM PST by Syco
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To: snooker
The irony is that this is a waste of political capital by pro-life people.

That capital will be needed in January to change the rules so judges can't be filibustered.

That is where the battle for pro-life judges will be won or lost.

49 posted on 11/04/2004 10:53:42 AM PST by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice.. NOT Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: snooker
You are falling for the MSM abortion trap. Hook line and sinker.

What's the goal?

And you are falling for the Sphincter "bait-and-switch". Arlen is a low-life scumbag. The only reason he squeaked through the primary against Toomey was because of the President's support. I know this for a fact, because I have talked to people who don't know better who said they were voting for him because of Bush's support.

Specter won his Senate race by about 11% of the vote, but Bush lost by 2%. Never ONCE, did Specter return the favor of trying to help Bush get elected. The Bush team even mentioned Specter's name at every campaign stop in PA (amid boo's by loyal supporters). Believe me, he said this and he meant it.

The only reason you're hearing a different story now is because people have been burning up the phones, faxes and e-mails in Frist's office and he's been told to back off. This is CYA time for Specter.

So, what's your goal?

63 posted on 11/04/2004 11:19:06 AM PST by Shethink13
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