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Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada
us news ^ | 11/3/04

Posted on 11/03/2004 11:33:16 AM PST by knak

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Disgruntled Democrats seeking a safe Canadian haven after President Bush won Tuesday's election should not pack their bags just yet.

Canadian officials made clear on Wednesday that any U.S. citizens so fed up with Bush that they want to make a fresh start up north would have to stand in line like any other would-be immigrants -- a wait that can take up to a year.

"You just can't come into Canada and say 'I'm going to stay here'. In other words, there has to be an application. There has to be a reason why the person is coming to Canada," said immigration ministry spokeswoman Maria Iadinardi.

There are anywhere from 600,000 to a million Americans living in Canada, a country that leans more to the left than the United States and has traditionally favored the Democrats over the Republicans.

But recent statistics show a gradual decline in U.S. citizens coming to work in Canada, which has a creaking publicly funded healthcare system and relatively high levels of personal taxation.

Government officials, real estate brokers and Democrat activists said that while some Americans might talk about a move to Canada rather than living with a new Bush administration, they did not expect a mass influx.

"It's one thing to say 'I'm leaving for Canada' and quite another to actually find a job here and wonder about where you're going to live and where the children are going to go to school," said one government official.

Roger King of the Toronto-based Democrats Abroad group said he had heard nothing to back up talk of a possible exodus of party members.

"I imagine most committed Democrats will want to stay in the United States and continue being politically active there," he told Reuters.

Americans seeking to immigrate can apply to become permanent citizens of Canada, a process that often takes a year. Becoming a full citizen takes a further three years.

The other main way to move north on a long-term basis is to find a job, which in all cases requires a work permit. This takes from four to six months to come through.

Official statistics show the number of U.S. workers entering Canada dropped to 15,789 in 2002 from 21,627 in 2000. Early indicators on Wednesday showed little sign of this changing.

A spokesman for Canada's foreign affairs ministry said there had been no increase in the number of hits on the Washington embassy's immigration Web site, while housing brokers said they doubted they would see a surge in U.S. business.

"Canada's always open and welcoming to Americans who want to relocate here, but we don't think it would be a trend or movement," said Gino Romanese of Royal Lepage Residential Real Estate Services in Toronto.

Those wishing to move to Canada could always take a risk and claim refugee status -- the path chosen earlier this year by two U.S. deserters who opposed the war in Iraq.

"Anybody who enters Canada who claims refugee status will be provided with a work permit ... it doesn't matter what country they're from," Iadinardi said.

Refugee cases are handled by special boards, which can take months to decide whether to admit applicants. The rulings can be appealed and opposition politicians complain some people ordered deported have been in Canada for 10 years or more.


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Bwahahaha, maybe they should call France.
1 posted on 11/03/2004 11:33:16 AM PST by knak
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To: knak
They should get used to standing in line before they get to Canuckistan.
2 posted on 11/03/2004 11:34:38 AM PST by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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To: knak

Hey, I'm in Canada, perhaps I can arrange to just swap places with some American liberal!


3 posted on 11/03/2004 11:35:02 AM PST by Grig
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To: knak

The media have no time to talk about Kerry's discharge but they waste space on THIS?


4 posted on 11/03/2004 11:35:20 AM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: knak

HAHAHAHHAHA! OMG, That is too funny!

What a riot!


5 posted on 11/03/2004 11:35:28 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote (Randell may be pulling a fast one again.........)
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To: knak

Let the exodus begin!


6 posted on 11/03/2004 11:36:04 AM PST by SHEENA26
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To: Grig

Come on over!!!


7 posted on 11/03/2004 11:36:16 AM PST by bonfire
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To: atomicpossum

How about an exchange program. I would gladly move to America and hve someone take my place up here.


8 posted on 11/03/2004 11:36:34 AM PST by righto
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"You just can't come into Canada and say 'I'm going to stay here'.

Unless you're a deserter or draft dodger.
9 posted on 11/03/2004 11:36:40 AM PST by holymoly
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I just hope we can prevent these lib exiles from voting in both countries! ! ! !


10 posted on 11/03/2004 11:36:54 AM PST by eagle11 (There are TWO Americas....and the liberal one is shrinking!)
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"You just can't come into Canada and say 'I'm going to stay here'.Our fleeing, gutless, liberals will gladly let any and all of the world flood the US until we crash and burn. Why can't you take our tired, our beaten, our liberals?...


11 posted on 11/03/2004 11:37:39 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: knak

Why can't they just sneak across the border like the Mexicans sneak across into this country?


12 posted on 11/03/2004 11:37:50 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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You just can't come into Canada and say 'I'm going to stay here'. In other words, there has to be an application. There has to be a reason why the person is coming to Canada," said immigration ministry spokeswoman Maria Iadinardi.

Wow, with an attitude like that maybe Ms. Iadinardi would like Asa Hutchinson's job over at INS.

Imagine that...You just can't come into a country and say "I'm going to stay here"

13 posted on 11/03/2004 11:37:59 AM PST by FatLoser
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To: SHEENA26
Let the exodus begin!

Careful, don't send to many our way or we will have to open our borders and send more Jennings and John Roberts your way!

BTW - congrats on a great night.

14 posted on 11/03/2004 11:38:26 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: eagle11

look at Canada trying to pretend its a real country and all. GO USA!


15 posted on 11/03/2004 11:38:28 AM PST by nighthawks
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To: knak

Or, you can just hop the border, and tie up Canadian Immigration in their wacko liberal courts for a few decades until there's another Democrat elected.


16 posted on 11/03/2004 11:38:40 AM PST by thoughtomator (First, let's shoot all the lawyers)
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There's always Mexico. Border crossings can be a two-way street, you know.


17 posted on 11/03/2004 11:39:03 AM PST by LincolnLover (Thune Wins + G Dubya Wins = I am Deeply Gladdened (Election Day 2K4))
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Wow, maybe someone should tell David Dreier that's how immigration is supposed to work.


18 posted on 11/03/2004 11:39:50 AM PST by Nachum (We're All Americans, Let's Stand Together)
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Wish we could get the folks from Mexico to do the same - wait in line, that is.


19 posted on 11/03/2004 11:39:54 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules)
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"You just can't come into Canada and say 'I'm going to stay here'. In other words, there has to be an application. There has to be a reason why the person is coming to Canada,"

One time my wife and I were visiting friends in Canada. The customs official was incredulous. "What on earth are you going to do in Alberta for NINE DAYS???" Like the subject had never come up before. "I don't know. You got any suggestions?"

20 posted on 11/03/2004 11:39:58 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority (THANK YOU, FREEPERS for re-electing President George W. Bush!)
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