Guppies win in CA

MSNBC ^ | 11/03/04 | MSNBC staff and news service reports

[QandA]

Californians came down on the side of stem-cell research Tuesday by passing a controversial bond measure that devotes $3 billion to human embryonic stem-cell experiments and comprises the biggest-ever state-supported scientific research program in the country. Proposition 71 was approved by a significant margin, NBC News projected.

[QandA]

The guppies and cannibals win one from the state of the Gipper.

[jneesy]

california is going to go into complete financial collapse if they dont do something about these hairbrained propositions on the ballot

[marvlus]

I was just about to say - what are they doing, trying to spend more of their taxpayer's money, while trying to dig out from their huge debt load!

[Grendel9]

I heard last night that the financial investment in California ($3 Billion) is "guaranteed" to bring new life to the state's economy.

Just hope with all their other money problems, the law suits evolving out of stem-cell research it doesn't sink
the state!

[claudiustg]

They're broke! Somebody shake these schmucks!

[foolscap]

That's CA for ya. Their state is in financial trouble and they vote to give away money. The voters there must have bought the lie that stem cell research is banned.

[QandA]

Am disappointed Arnold backed this, but expected it. Big-business welfare AND moral issues. How much more of a loser - as a Republican issue - could this have been?

[FreePaul]

Maybe their research will find that stem cells from illegal immigrants will....? That could solve several problems.

[glockmeister40]

I don't feel too bad - as long as they're aborting future california democrats for the embryos.

[marvlus]

I was just about to say - what are they doing, trying to spend more of their taxpayer's money, while trying to dig out from their huge debt load!

[shrinkermd]

You Freepers are an ignorant lot. Don't you understand that the government is now in the perpetual life business. Forget your religious convictions about Jesus leading you to God and life after death. The government just needs to kill a few people to give you their cells so you might live for a long, long time.

Oh, by the way there is no evidence you need to kill embryos to do stem cell research, but what the heck if you can get the Freepers other ignoramuses to believe killing the unborn is boon so much the better for you. Making the pro-lifers compromise their convictions is what is important.

[Mamzelle]

Have they figured out where the money comes from--what do they have left to tax, illegal aliens? I thought they were something like 30B in debt?

[claudiustg]

On the first ballot dealing with the budget shortfall, they were already voting to fund more school building. I think a lot of the voters don't really understand what a bond issue is. I am so glad I don't live there any more.

[TheDon]

"I heard last night that the financial investment in California ($3 Billion) is "guaranteed" to bring new life to the state's economy."

I've heard the Demorats are proposing a new initiative to help bring new life to the state's economy. It is to make lamp shades from old people and the mentally retarded and use the money to help pay our state debts. It should also create jobs! It has the added benefit of reducing the burden of non-productive people on our state.

[LaraCroft]

If stem cell research was the financial panacea they claim, private companies would be all over it.

[fightu4it]

"... by passing a controversial bond measure that devotes $3 billion to human embryonic stem-cell experiments..."

Evidently California is overflowing with taxpayer dollars. Well, I guess you have to spend all that largess somewhere.

[QandA]

Exactly. And the proven results of non-embryonic/non-cloned stem-cell research should prove the case. Why didn't the folks in CA get it?

[p. henry]

I have lived in the last moderately sane, large (sort of) city in California, San Diego, for 25 of the last 27 years. But even here, my legislator is a liberal female democrat, my state senator is a lesbian democrat, my Congresscritter is a female democrat, and my Senators are Boxer and Feinstein. The probable new mayor of my city is a female democrat who is in thrall to organized labor. The republicans just waged the most pathetic Senatorial campaign in the history of the Republic. And now the only prominent republican in the State (Ahhnold) has helped to pass an initiative which puts the State in the biotech business and commits us to funding experiments using cells extracted from human embryos

I just don't fit out here anymore. I swear, when my family ties to this State diminish, I'm moving to Texas.

[ghitma]

I thought the bond was for 6 billion and the final payoff
amount will be about 10 billion. Just what CA needs more debt, they just don't get it!

[QandA]

Amen.