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Choices for president - A man of faith vs. a man of ideas
Washington Times ^ | October 29, 2004 | Phillip H. McMath

Posted on 10/29/2004 12:44:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

The presidential choice this year is between a believer and a thinker. Sen. John F. Kerry is clever and knows many things. George W. Bush knows one big thing. The debates were between two boxers, a jabber and a hooker Ali and Frazier, perhaps — one who floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee and a bull that bores in till he bangs a hard one to the chin.

But there were no knockouts. Mr. Kerry won on points. He was confident, smooth and articulate. He danced circles around President Bush, who awkwardly absorbed punishment untill he could finally land his big left fist. "Global test." Bang. Mr. Kerry almost went to the mat. It resounds today, and as the president's bruises and bumps heal Mr. Kerry's head still aches from the blow that came when he dropped his guard.

Question: Does America really want a commander-in-chief who subordinates security to a "global test?" What, pray, is that? Is it the United Nations, whose impotence and incompetence is exceeded only by its hypocrisy and corruption? Is that Mr. Kerry's sentry of our safety? What of George Bush? What does he propose? Everyone can see that he is truly a believer, a man of faith. He does not know as many wonderful things as the senator, but he believes a man with faith has enough, and a man without it does not. Faith is his strength, and it takes a faith to defeat a faith — an idea to defeat an idea.

In Vietnam we wondered why our enemy was so resolute and our ally was not. The answer was simple. The enemy believed, with the fervor of faith, and won.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; election; faith; flipflop; kerry; leadership
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To: umbagi

My family in Texas has added 4 more votes for Bush.


21 posted on 10/29/2004 1:34:11 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
My family in Texas has added 4 more votes for Bush.

Great!

I keep telling folks that we need to run up the score where we can, so we don't have to listen to all that "throw out the electoral college" qa-qaa...

22 posted on 10/29/2004 1:40:17 AM PDT by umbagi (Monthly donor [entry level])
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To: rhetor
Could it be the specter of McCarthyism that makes the GOP so reluctant to use that term?

I think it has more to do with credibility. Woody Allen has a saying about humor that I believe applies to politics as well: "If it bends, it's funny. If it breaks -- not funny."

There's a point in politics where rhetoric crosses the line from bending to breaking. You can see that in Kerry's campaign. He's made so many outlandish charges against Bush that his credibility is gone. People (outside of his rabid supporters) don't really listen to all Kerry's wild-eyed accusations anymore. The media is going the same route, I think (SeeBS, NYT, etc.) -- people are starting to become skeptical because they've also crossed that line once too often.

So, to make the long answer shorter: I think "liberal" bends (read: works), "communist" (or any comparison) is too harsh and breaks, because most moderate voters will view it as an outlandish charge. That's my take on it, FWIW.
23 posted on 10/29/2004 1:42:06 AM PDT by PrtzlLogic
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To: umbagi
Mrs. U. and I jerked the elephant's trunk so hard and fast yesterday afternoon that the jackass quivered and conceded...

LOL! I think you made me disturb (woke up) the neighbors.

24 posted on 10/29/2004 1:48:08 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: searchandrecovery

Yeah, I think it bothered the hippie in the next booth, too...


25 posted on 10/29/2004 1:50:33 AM PDT by umbagi (Monthly donor [entry level])
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Who in their right mind would call Kerry a man of ideas, much less a "thinker"? Stinker is more like it.


26 posted on 10/29/2004 2:00:20 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie

Kerry's been "thinking" about being president all his adult life.


27 posted on 10/29/2004 2:02:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Outland
5) Since Kerry is very wealthy and pays comparitively little in taxes, do you honestly expect him to raise taxes on "the rich" that would also affect his wealth?

The WSJ pointed out that Kerry's proposed tax increase on high earners (as opposed to the super-rich like Teresa) would have the additional effect of increasing the value of tax-free munis (which -- coincidentally enough -- Teresa has by the bushelful!).

28 posted on 10/29/2004 2:04:10 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Choices for president - A man of faith vs. a man of ideas "

Title is incorrect; should be:

"Choices for president - A man of faith vs. a man of lies"

Bush 65%, Kerry 37%

29 posted on 10/29/2004 2:07:32 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Yes.

The liar figures how to twist the facts and fool the people.


30 posted on 10/29/2004 2:09:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Someone pinch him, he's dreaming. I see you are an insomniac also.=o)


31 posted on 10/29/2004 2:33:50 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie

Mostly just an early riser.


32 posted on 10/29/2004 2:36:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Exactly what evidence is there that Kerry is a "thinker"???

I know of none.

Simple cause and effect is beyond this man.


33 posted on 10/29/2004 3:00:02 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I voted for Bush yesterday afternoon after waiting in line for about 25 min. Felt good! North Carolina is Bush country!


34 posted on 10/29/2004 3:02:12 AM PDT by GBA
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To: wizardoz

No offense, but that's nonsense

Marx and Lennin were thinkers.. Intellectuals with no moral foundation

Ronald Reagan was a believer. He believed in America, He believed in Freedom and he believed in God.

Unfortunately there are other believers out there who can be negative - Osama for instance... It comes down to what you believe. There can be good thinkers too, George Will for instance.

Generally though, I'll stand with a good man of faith than a good thinker any day. The man who believes is the one who accomplishes great things. The thinker will almost always end up compromising away victory


35 posted on 10/29/2004 3:57:45 AM PDT by jdluntjr
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good map! My oldest son served in the first Gulf War and was mostly in Qatar. The last time I talked to him, he was confused as to why we are taking so many prisoners. Although he was not in a major combat area, he said, "If they're the enemy, just shoot them so we don't have to watch all these charges of prisoner abuse".

It's so easy for Kerry and all the other 'Monday morning quarterbacks' to criticize how the military operations are being handled. And so many Democrats that can connect dots to imagine Bush caused or could have prevented the 911 attacks CAN'T seem to connect the dots between Al Qaeda- Saddam Hussein and the oil-for-food scam.

Still, one of the MSM tv channels showed a survey of voters that indicated 48% of those voting for Kerry are voting for him because he's not Bush; while only 16% of Bush voters are voting for him because he's not Kerry.

Kerry has ideas? It seems he has different promises depending on who the audience is. Bush is running for president, while Kerry seems to be running for Mr. Universe.


36 posted on 10/29/2004 4:28:42 AM PDT by Susannah (What's less united than the USA during war? > the UN !)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
After seeing stolen honor last night i do not want Kerry walking the streets he should be locked up for the rest of his life.This man is an enemy of America and would like to see the likes of the V/C take it over.
37 posted on 10/29/2004 5:47:03 AM PDT by solo gringo (Don't be a girlie man vote Bush/Cheney in/04)
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To: Susannah
My best to your son.

U.S. LIBERALS loathe America.

They worship that which is different and foreign.

A lot of it comes from the public school curriculum.

***....Compassion ceases if there is nothing but compassion, and revulsion turns to insensitivity. Our “soft pity,” as Stefan Zweig calls it, is stimulated, because guilt is a convenient substitute for action where action is impossible. Without the power to do anything, sensitivity becomes our main aim, the aim is not so much to do anything, as to be judged. Salvation lies in the verdict that declares us to be wrong....salvation consists not only in a futile exchange of influences, but in the recognition of the superiority of foreign thought, in the study of their doctrines, and in conversion to their dogma. We must take on our former slaves as our models. . . . It is the duty and in the interest of the West to be made prisoner by its own barbarians. ***Source

38 posted on 10/29/2004 5:57:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: solo gringo

And he can bunk with Michael Moore.


39 posted on 10/29/2004 5:58:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: rhetor
Could it be the specter of McCarthyism that makes the GOP so reluctant to use that term?

I think you're right, the left has effectively bullied most people into silence by calling them names. If you criticize their ideas or stances in any way, they immediately respond by demonizing you for daring to speak. That way they don't have to answer the charges.

40 posted on 10/29/2004 9:35:47 AM PDT by wizardoz (Votez pour Jean Kerry!!)
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