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Trailer trash: fightin' mad, want Dubya (the “realism & idealism” of academia loses to hillbillies)
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | October 29, 2004 | Peter Hartcher

Posted on 10/28/2004 7:14:04 AM PDT by dead

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To: dead

And while we're at it, let's hear it for all the "dumb" Scandis who tirelessly plowed the Great Plains and wanted nothing more out life than bicker with their holier-than-thou pastors and drink very hot coffee out of saucers!

Of course when the time came, they also kicked rear and took names in every war.


61 posted on 10/28/2004 8:09:19 AM PDT by Gingersnap
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To: spodefly

I agree. Regardless of the author's thoughts, I am honored by Webb's descriptions of the Scots-Irish. I'm from Virginia and know from my genealogical studies that my family was a significant part of the quiet Americans who built this great country into what it is today. John Kerry will never understand it.


62 posted on 10/28/2004 8:12:15 AM PDT by twigs
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To: danneskjold

Ah’m shore nuff proud to be ah hillbilly. Lak mah Granpa tol me, stan tall, be proud of
who ye ar, work hard, have faith in God an allus do tha rite thang!
Shucks, his telling me that shore has served me good!


63 posted on 10/28/2004 8:13:34 AM PDT by swift eagle
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To: dead
"What is Bush's secret? With such a poor record, how can he still be in the race, much less the favourite?"

Like most Leftists, this dumb klunk can't see the forest for the trees.

The answer is right before him. In fact, it's embedded in his own words:

"He has led his country into the most controversial war since Vietnam."

Here's the answer, but don't expect this Hartcher moron to comprehend it: The "controversy" is a creation of the Radical Left Propaganda Machine--especially the "Mainstream Newsmedia"--and the American people see right through it.

The Leftist Leaders know that the entire "controversy" was manufactured for political purposes, but this is beyond the comprehension of the knuckle-dragging Neanderthals who follow them.

As Rush observed, if President Bush were a Leftist Democrat and had done exactly the same thing, his approach to the War on Terror, including Iraq, would be hailed as brilliant and right on track by the Leftist "Mainstream Newsmedia".

He's right. The so-called "journalists" would be singing his praises and campaigning for his re-election (as enthusiastically as they are now campaigning for the election of John Kerry).

All this "controversy" is nothing more than political propaganda, designed to elect a Lunatic Fringe Radical Leftist Democrat to the presidency of the U.S. and to advance their long-term goal, i.e to replace the U.S. Republic with a totalitarian Marxist oligarchy.

The American people see it for exactly what it is--political propaganda, nothing more.

Some people--the nitwit who wrote this article, for example--lack the wit to see propaganda for what it is.

Fortunately for the world, the average American is smarter than that.

64 posted on 10/28/2004 8:13:56 AM PDT by Savage Beast ( 9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush!)
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To: dead

The dominant theme of this presidential election, the first since September 11, 2001, is national security. The No. 1 issue of importance to voters is the Iraq war, according to Gallup, and the No. 2 issue is the threat of terrorism.

There's a difference?


65 posted on 10/28/2004 8:14:31 AM PDT by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: dead

Exactly what's wrong with hillbillies? I consider it an honor to have ancestors on both sides from Virginia, Carolina and Tennessee.


66 posted on 10/28/2004 8:15:07 AM PDT by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: campfollower
Funny thing. Some of us live outside the Appalachians now, have decent educations and are quite successful.

But our roots run deep.

67 posted on 10/28/2004 8:21:35 AM PDT by 1stMarylandRegiment (Conserve Liberty)
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To: dead; danneskjold; campfollower; the_devils_advocate_666; LisaS; coconutt2000; Lou C. Ramerez; ...
You'll not find a more cluelessly condescending article on this fine day.

You are mistaken, in the sense this man's ideas are dead on target regarding the spirit of this group of people. Need proof? Look here:

America's Founding Secret: What the Scottish Enlightenment Taught Our Founding Fathers

and here:

How the Scots Invented the Modern World: The True Story of How Western Europe's Poorest Nation Created Our World and Everything in It.

So, true, the intent of the article can be seen as not so good; but look deeper, and he trumpets some truth. These two books trumpet some political history truths too many overlook (esp. us Freepers).

68 posted on 10/28/2004 8:22:10 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: Humvee

>>Bush is from Mars, Kerry is from Uranus.

I think technically Kerry is from one of the MOONS of Uranus!


69 posted on 10/28/2004 8:23:01 AM PDT by MarineBrat
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To: dead

Those backwoods the author mentions also "fermented" up one Abraham Lincoln.


70 posted on 10/28/2004 8:23:11 AM PDT by Smoote
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To: gobucks
The French Enlightenment was an offshoot of the English Enlightenment.
The English Enlightenment was an offshoot of the Scottish Enlightenment.

Modern thought and the modern world from Economic and Political Theory to the invention of the steam engine, the Railroad and the ironclad ship all came from the Scottish Lowlands.

SO9

71 posted on 10/28/2004 8:29:46 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: All
In the midst of Liberal dribble, he had a few comments worthy of mention.

It's a group that constitutes the hardy core of the American folk, and it was introduced by the novelist and ex-Marine James Webb in these terms: "This people gave our country great things, including its most definitive culture. It is imbued with a unique and unforgiving code of personal honour less ritualised but every bit as powerful as the samurai code."....From this code of honour come the rules for the American political conduct of warfare. Once Jacksonian honour is engaged, America will fight ferociously, tirelessly and without restraint. "For the first Jacksonian rule of war is that wars must be fought with all available force," writes Mead. "The use of limited force is deeply repugnant. Jacksonians see war as a switch that is either 'on' or 'off'.

Damn straight.

The terrorists started this bloody war, and they are going to pay with their own blood till decimated beyond ability to regroup. The 'peace' crowd can take a hike. We're not allowing them to repeat the events of Vietnam. We will win because we have to win.

72 posted on 10/28/2004 8:32:21 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: gobucks
As I said in Post #37, the author of this article doesn't contribute any insightful or accurate analysis of the contributions of these people.

He merely repeats the accurate and insightful analysis of other people, then misinterprets and miscontrues their insights in an attempt to validate his own erronous and condescending theory.

His overall point is quite different from that of the people he cites to support it.

73 posted on 10/28/2004 8:35:31 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

"This is the group that is keeping Bush competitive in the election,"

Not quite, McFly. The media is keeping this race artificially close, and it ain't Bush they're propping up.


74 posted on 10/28/2004 8:42:33 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Gravity and EM are the same thing)
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To: Little Ray

We ain't from West Viginia, we're Kentuckians. The only think I'm liberal about is the amount of shine I poor from a Jug.

Were Ridings, Roarks, Gilberts, Whites, Joneses and a good dollop of Cherokee thrown in. We're from Pineville, Harlan, Kenvir and Black Mountain. My Grandad was a coal miner and he carried a blued S&W 38-44 with walnut grips on Monday through Saturday. On Sunday he carried a nickle plated 38-44 with ivory grips; it was his Sunday-Go-To meetin' Pistol. He took no crap. His dad was a trapper and he took no crap.

We've since moved on. Into the automotive factories, and later as Doctors and yes, rocket scientists. We know who we are and what we ain't

We don't hold with no crap. We don't hold with no person or party tryin' to steal our country or constitution. The day will come when the b@st@rds that are try to corrupt and overthrow this country will pay the the price.

That goes for so-called Americans and their terrorist allies.

Me an most of my kin can hit a man-sized target at 600 yard with an '03, M1, M14 (or other good rifle) with iron sights - we don't need no telescopic sights either.

I generally don't like violence and would prefer to be left alone. But I'll tell you one d@mn thing. Don't f*&k with this country 'cause I'd love to come getcha and so would my kin.

Most of the kranked up lefties, socialists, liberals and their limp-wristed followers have no idea who we are and how many we number. They better pray to the Almighty (that's a laugh) they never give us cause to find out. I can garuantee you that if they do give cause they won't live to regret it.

I'm tired of the crap and corruption that they have brought upon this country in the last forty years. I see it as time for a reckonin'.

Most of my kin will vote BUSH, so will I. And so must you if you care for this country at all. My family blood has been spent at the Alamo, Vicksburg, Petersburg, New Guinea, Muesse-Argonne, and the Hurtgen Forest and by G*d it will be spilt again whenever this country needs it.

Sorry for this rant but I've had about enough of the "honorable" lyin' opposition and their crap.

Had my say.


75 posted on 10/28/2004 8:49:33 AM PDT by Bad Dog2 (Bad Dog - No Biscuit)
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To: gobucks

I have no doubt there's some truth to what he says about the scot immigrants(frankly, my ancestry is English and Norwegian but I'm just an AMERICAN period). But the TONE of the piece was off kilter. Is it just that he's a bad writer? I think not.

The snide 'we know everything about these Bush voters' attitude is just a set-up for more America-bashing. Thank God Australia still has the warrior spirit as well. We need them as an ally.

(I might have to look for the books you posted, thanks!)


76 posted on 10/28/2004 8:51:43 AM PDT by campfollower (9 out of ten terrorists endorse John Kerry for Prez.)
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To: Little Ray

Besides that.... they have enough common sense to figure out how to exist and stay alive in adverse conditions which is a lot more than you can say about the "intelligentsia" who would shrivel up and die before they figured out how to dirty their hands in the endeavor.


77 posted on 10/28/2004 9:00:28 AM PDT by penowa
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To: campfollower
I might have to look for the books you posted, thanks!

You're welcome. Coming from a pulik sckool edukation, I have found these two volumes surprisingly illuminating ...

78 posted on 10/28/2004 9:02:48 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: dead

strip away the condescension and this article is pretty much dead on the money.

of course, if you strip away the condescension, you are left with a fair amount of citation and precious little of the article's author's own words


79 posted on 10/28/2004 9:17:08 AM PDT by King Prout ("We've found more WMDs in Iraq than we've found disenfranchised blacks in Florida." - Ann Coulter)
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To: gobucks

Thanks for the ping!


80 posted on 10/28/2004 9:39:34 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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