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Wives of soldiers who refused orders in Iraq speak out
Daily News Roundup ^ | 10/21/04

Posted on 10/21/2004 6:55:35 AM PDT by pabianice

Patricia McCook and Jackie Butler have accepted a mission created when their husbands refused a fuel convoy order in Iraq last week. “He can’t speak because he has to live that life in the military right now,” Patricia McCook said of her husband. “I’m his voice on the outside, and there is nothing the military can do about it.”

“It’s our job now,” Jackie Butler said. “It’s our duty.”

Their husbands — Sgts. Larry McCook and Michael Butler, both of Jackson — and 16 other members of the Rock Hill, S.C.-based 343rd Army Reserve Quartermaster Company refused an order to deliver fuel citing “deadlined” vehicles that were not armored, poor leadership and contaminated fuel, their relatives said.

Brought together by their husbands’ decision, the women have become soldiers on the homefront. They’ve been bombarded with interview requests from news agencies around the world since the story of the platoon’s refusal of orders first appeared in The Clarion-Ledger.

They want the world to know their husbands would not have refused an order unless it was a “suicide mission,” they said.

Ask Jackie Butler and Patricia McCook about what kind of strain the past week has brought them. They’ll pause — look at one another and communicate without saying a word. Then Butler speaks.

“Look at these bags,” Butler said, removing her glasses and pointing to the circles beneath her eyes. “I just accumulated them this week. It has been a nightmare.”

Stress has come with the realization their husbands are caught in two battles in Iraq.

The women expected their husbands to face the threat of attacks from Iraqi insurgents when the Army reservists were deployed in February. But they never imagined a scenario that would have their own military holding their husbands under armed guard, or, according to the soldiers, sending them on missions with ill-equipped vehicles.

“He’s fighting a double battle,” Butler said of her husband. “That’s what hurts the most.”

The Army has denied the soldiers were ever held under armed guard.

Five members of the Army Reserve platoon were reassigned to different units, including Butler, 44, and McCook, 41, as the military investigates the refusal and the safety of the soldiers’ equipment.

The military has conceded the vehicles were not equipped with armor, something officials say is being addressed.

Patricia McCook had never met Jackie Butler before Saturday. In an interview with The Clarion-Ledger on Tuesday, the two women said they have forged a bond by swapping stories about their husbands, offering words of encouragement and a shoulder to lean on.

“Jackie is the only person in my world right now who knows exactly what I am going through,” Patricia McCook said.

“I’m sick-feeling, constantly,” Jackie Butler said. “Twenty-four hours (a day).” Sgt. McCook has been in the Army Reserves “off and on” for about 10 years, his wife said. Sgt. Butler is a 24-year reservist. Both men knew the severity of refusing orders and were not afraid to travel down dangerous routes, their wives said.

Outside of having a crew from The New York Times follow Jackie Butler to church or Patricia McCook talking with a reporter from NBC’s Dateline while taking her children to the dentist, the women are trying to carry on routinely with their lives.

“I didn’t think it would make the national news,” Patricia McCook said. “I knew it was going to be in The Clarion-Ledger because we went to you first. I sure didn’t think it was going to take on a life of its own like it has.”

The women said they think the upcoming presidential election may have played a role in why the national media took to the story.

Relatives of troops, even the troops themselves, have every right to speak their minds, said Lt. Col. Steven Boylan, director of the Combined Press Information Center in Iraq.

“But from what we are hearing in the media, there has been a lot of speculation and people speaking factually when they don’t know the facts,” Boylan said.

Patricia McCook and Jackie Butler said their husbands are fearful of speaking with reporters while the investigation is ongoing because their phone calls or e-mails might be monitored.

“I know how the military can cover things up,” said Patricia McCook, a former Army reservist. “They are trying to say our husbands and the others were never arrested or detained. That’s a lie. But this is something we are not going to let them sweep under the rug.”

Patricia McCook said she has received just one “hateful” phone call from a person in Texas who wished ill luck for her husband. Jackie Butler has received no flack, she said. People they see in Jackson, mostly strangers, offer them support, they said.

Both women had a talk with their children and stepchildren about why reporters keep calling their home and why their fathers are on television. The McCooks have two children, 16 and 14. Jackie Butler is a stepmother to two children, ages 14 and 10.

“I just told them to be careful of what they say around people,” Patricia McCook said. “I have to do that, too. But my husband and Jackie’s husband had the guts to stand up and do what they felt was right. We have to have the guts to stand up and tell the world that how they are being treated is wrong.”


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To: pabianice

I guess this would be a "pro-choice" army?


41 posted on 10/21/2004 7:33:07 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: Truth Table
Amen Truth Table!

I was on another thread the other day making the same arguments. Seems there are a lot of folks who know nothing of military law making speculations. They don't understand the nature of the UCMJ. Innocent until proven guilty does not apply in the military.

Fact of the matter is that they refused a lawful order in a combat zone. Period!
42 posted on 10/21/2004 7:45:33 AM PDT by PJammers (PJihadi! Pa Ja Ack Ba!!)
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To: PJammers

They could have been shot. Pure and simple. Extreme, but they could have been.


43 posted on 10/21/2004 7:53:46 AM PDT by Truth Table
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To: Truth Table
I brought up this very point. I was labeled an extremist.
44 posted on 10/21/2004 8:04:18 AM PDT by PJammers (PJihadi! Pa Ja Ack Ba!!)
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To: Jerry_M
If any of those events happened during WWII no one stateside would have heard about it or had any sympathy for them if they had.

These things happen in war. Not everyone is a hero. I have no sympathy for these guys. They signed up for the military, so they are owned by the military. No one forced them.

Unfortunately this isn't the great patriotic war WWII was. Helping Iraqi's establish democracy, when most Americans don't even like Arabs or Muslims, isn't the most popular of reasons for armed conflict. Some people will give these soldiers sympathy simply because they don't support the war. Logic doesn't enter the picture in their reasoning.
45 posted on 10/21/2004 8:04:37 AM PDT by monday
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To: PJammers

Well, military life is extreme. Most of the folks who would call someone citing the UCMJ an "extremist" have no idea of what military life is actually like outside of watching tom cruise movies. Don't worry about it.


46 posted on 10/21/2004 8:57:38 AM PDT by Truth Table
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To: pabianice

There was this airman that worked with my husband a couple of years ago. His wife had a lot of mental problems(depression) and she was abrasive when she came in contact with all the other wives(long story). Anyway, she complained that the Air Force had it out for her and they treated her poorly, etc. She killed his career, the worst was my husband said he was one of his best men. The WIFE killed his career.


47 posted on 10/21/2004 9:08:19 AM PDT by highlandbreeze
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To: atomicpossum
I agree we need to rely less on our guard and reserves. I have personally experienced problems with people who signed on for the outstanding educational benefits only to end up in a war zone with extreme attitude problems.

However, attitudes can be adjusted. 18 folks not reporting for duty is a leadership problem. Most likely these folks grew up together, work with and for each other, have same social/political views. Someone from above let this attitude fester unabated. That is the person who needs to be held most responsible for this unfortunate event.
48 posted on 10/21/2004 9:14:55 AM PDT by PJammers (PJihadi! Pa Ja Ack Ba!!)
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To: pabianice

Wives of Cowards.


49 posted on 10/21/2004 9:16:27 AM PDT by IGOTMINE (It is ALL THE WAY ON!)
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