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Kerry FLIP FLOP on Homosexuality as a Choice? [credit Rush Caller]
ABC News ^ | Oct. 15, 2004 | AP

Posted on 10/18/2004 11:43:28 AM PDT by freestyle

"It was meant constructively in terms of their love and affection for a person who is who she is," Kerry said in an interview taped for broadcast Friday night on CNN's "Paula Zahn Now." "And it was entirely as an example of how people come together around these choices, entirely constructively and respectfully."


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A caller to Rush caught this today. This is what happens when you are so politically motivated that you can't even keep your core beliefs straight.

I mean, if you read it, he contradicts himself in the same sentence. The same as saying "I'll never give a veto to another country," and then, "We must pass a global test." Is there any position this idiot has NOT taken?

But, the fact remains: Kerry has now called homosexuality a "choice".

(I'm sure the gay activists will be outraged. /wishfull thinking)

1 posted on 10/18/2004 11:43:30 AM PDT by freestyle
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To: freestyle

Hey, freestyle.

Good catch by Rush. We certainly can't rely on Old Media to catch these little flip flops of Kerry's.


2 posted on 10/18/2004 11:46:09 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: freestyle

Do we have any scientific data to support either position choice/birth?


3 posted on 10/18/2004 11:47:59 AM PDT by T-Boy
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To: freestyle
Aw, heck, I caught that one two days ago
4 posted on 10/18/2004 11:53:12 AM PDT by gridlock (BARKEEP: Why the long face? HORSE: Ha ha, old joke. BARKEEP: Not you, I was talking to JF'n Kerry!)
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To: T-Boy
I knew this girl from Minnesota and she was a "lesbian" (she is currently 47 years old) and then she found a man to her liking...I am convinced that half the gays in the world do it to "piss off the establishment/family/community or immature attention grabbing" and once everyone goes "ho hum" they get a grip and get a life if they haven't detroyed their health or reputation beyond repair.

The lesbian has been with the same guy now going on three years and is talking marriage.

MY squeeze tho can't believe ANY self respecting man would EVER get involved with a sexually screwed up individual like that especially since the "boyfriend in all aspects is sloppy seconds in the "choice" column...LOL!!!

5 posted on 10/18/2004 11:53:23 AM PDT by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: T-Boy

I don't know, but I bet you that there is evidence that can support both.

Bush gave the correct answer to the question: "I don't know."


6 posted on 10/18/2004 11:53:24 AM PDT by freestyle
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To: freestyle

kerry is also now saying he's prone to change his stance on gay marriage...quoted as saying it in a gay mag this weekend. if this doesn't smack of desperation, I don't know what does. pandering to/for the gay vote.


7 posted on 10/18/2004 11:53:53 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: gridlock

Good job! Credit noted.


8 posted on 10/18/2004 11:54:54 AM PDT by freestyle
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To: freestyle

When President Bush answered, "I don't know" to the gay question on choice, it was a politically correct answer. He does know. We were created in the image of God and God calls homosexuality an abomination! It is most definitely a choice!


9 posted on 10/18/2004 11:59:43 AM PDT by Woogit
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To: freestyle
"Is there any position this idiot has NOT taken?"

Yes--The right one.
10 posted on 10/18/2004 12:00:45 PM PDT by jcb8199
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To: Woogit

Oh boy, here we go...

Woogit, is mental retardation a choice?

(I only make this comparison for it to make sense to you.)


11 posted on 10/18/2004 12:02:40 PM PDT by freestyle
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To: freestyle

Evidence is what I am curious in. There was that study years back concerning "possible genetics" that was discredited but repeated on the networks. Since then, everyone thinks its a fact or should be. Facts are proved. Where's the proof?


12 posted on 10/18/2004 12:03:49 PM PDT by T-Boy
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To: spacejunkie2001

If it meant getting a vote he's prone to being in the prone position--if you know what I mean.


13 posted on 10/18/2004 12:04:07 PM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: T-Boy

I don't think so.... but if people are born 'gay' then what's all this gender role bs the fems put out, since people are definitely born either male or female?


14 posted on 10/18/2004 12:04:52 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: antivenom

I think men are much more fixed in their sexuality than women. It's much more likely for a woman to be able to try a lesbian experience without really being homosexual. Most heterosexual men couldn't do that in a million years. So it's much more likely for a woman who has decided she is a "lesbian" to be attracted to men at some other point in her life.


15 posted on 10/18/2004 12:05:42 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: T-Boy

Exatly T-Boy. I do not believe science can yet prove this either way.

The correct answer (even for a scientist) is "I don't know."

Now, if God were asked this specific question, he would either:
"Yes."
"No."
or
"Sometimes."

And then we'd know for sure.


16 posted on 10/18/2004 12:06:05 PM PDT by freestyle
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To: freestyle

Why don't you ask NJ Gov McGreavy if it was a choice. He of the married (twice) with a gay lover. I guess he is a flip flop too.


17 posted on 10/18/2004 12:07:40 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: freestyle
Hey, you're argument is with GOD...not me. The Word of God is the Word of God...if you don't like His views, take it up with HIM.
18 posted on 10/18/2004 12:08:11 PM PDT by Woogit
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Do we have any scientific data to support either position choice/birth?

What would constitute scientific proof?

It seems like something that's inherently difficult, if not impossible, to prove. Nevertheless, we can know with certainty that homosexual behavior is intrinsically unnatural and evil, and that man has the ability and responsibility to control his behavior through the exercise of his intellect and will.

19 posted on 10/18/2004 12:09:38 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: freestyle

I agree. How often does one of these nature vs. nurture disputes get settled, anyway?


20 posted on 10/18/2004 12:10:45 PM PDT by ellery (Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. - Ronald Reagan)
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