Roy Moore continues to lead in wrong direction

Decatur Daily ^ | THURSDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2004

[TomDoniphon68]

Why did the U.S. Supreme Court refuse to hear the appeal of former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore's Ten Commandments case, then turn around and agree to hear two similar ones?

Do the justices have a personal bias against Mr. Moore, whom most probably don't even know?

Do they, like so much of Washington, simply write off Alabama as a land of extremes?

The court agreed to hear Kentucky and Texas appeals of Ten Commandment cases because they were not as blatant as the granite monument Mr. Moore placed in the rotunda of the state Judicial Building in the middle of the night.

To use a popular phrase, Mr. Moore insisted on pushing the envelope as far toward religion as possible, while the others were more restrained.

The court presumably will decide exactly how far these attempts to recognize God in government may go.

Meanwhile, Mr. Moore is back at work in Alabama stirring up more fear, but this time it's not about alleged attempts to erase God from society. He's against Amendment Two on the Nov. 2 ballot because he insists it says something it doesn't.

That's typical Roy Moore.

The amendment deletes from the state constitution racial wording that should have never been adopted in the first place, and should have been taken out decades ago.

It has to do with separate public school facilities for whites and blacks and the poll tax, which Alabama used for years to keep minorities from voting.

Legislators even put language in the constitution some 50 years ago that failed to recognize education or training at public expense. In other words, if the federal government insisted on integrated schools, the state had the option to shut down public education.

Mr. Moore says taking that wording out of the constitution opens the way for a massive court-directed increase in education funds based on the equity funding case of 1993.

The state Supreme Court struck down that spending plan and voters have no need to fear subterfuge in voting for Amendment Two. Approving it will have no effect on the law, but will say to our black residents that our segregationist past is truly in the past.

The politics of fear need stamping out in Alabama.

[judgeandjury]

" He seemed to be a man with strong convictions "

Of course.Crackpots are like that.

Then I guess you could put men such as Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, Paine, and Hamilton in the 'crackpot' category.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

It is Roy Moore's accusers who practice the politics of fear. The man is the most honest, humble, and intelligent person in America today.

[sinkspur]

The man is the most honest, humble, and intelligent person in America todayNo wonder you thought the GOP ought to drop its outrage at Kerry's Mary Cheney remark.

Roy Moore is a self-aggrandizing zealot who has no business sitting as a judge.

And, he likely never will again. If the citizens of Alabama want this egomaniac for governor, well, they'll have to live with him.

[qam1]

'Constitutionalist' refers to how a judge acts on the law, not what plaques or monuments he posts in the buildings he has control over.

But you knew that. You're mouthing all the falsities that the ACLU types spout.

huh? So defying a higher federal judge is lawful?

Two questions:

What exactly is on the frieze over the heads of the Supreme Court justices as they deliberate?

The lawgivers, Moses is up there with bunch of other guys and I don't see Supreme Court Justices sneaking out in the middle of the night to put up monuments.

And EX-judge, current loony Roy Moore wouldn't be happy with what the Supremes have.

See on Christianity Today: The Ten Commandments Display Roy Moore Doesn't Like

Roy Moore criticizes Commandments display

You would think that suspended Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore would be happy about his governor's new display of the Ten Commandments, which was installed Tuesday in the old Supreme Court library room in the Capitol. But he's not. Actually, it's the posting of the Magna Carta, the Mayflower Compact, and the Declaration of Independence along with the Ten Commandments that Moore is upset about.

"To put things around the Ten Commandments and secularize it is to deny the greatness of God," Moore told supporters at a banquet to raise money for his legal defense.

Yeah, OK

What does the preamble to the Alabama Constitution say?

We, the people of the State of Alabama, in order to establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution and form of government for the State of Alabama:

Nothing in there about putting monuments to Christianity all over the place

Plus the Preamble isn't the law

See SECTION 3 of the Alabama Constitution which is the law

Religious freedom.

That no religion shall be established by law; that no preference shall be given by law to any religious sect, society, denomination, or mode of worship; that no one shall be compelled by law to attend any place of worship; nor to pay any tithes, taxes, or other rate for building or repairing any place of worship, or for maintaining any minister or ministry; that no religious test shall be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under this state; and that the civil rights, privileges, and capacities of any citizen shall not be in any manner affected by his religious principles.

Roy Moore violated this by refusing to allow Atheist their monument and a monument dedicated to Martin Luther King's "I have a Dream Speech" because according to him "because they were not the revealed law of God." So by favoring his God above all other things he did violate the no preference clause and he was booted rightfully so.

[EternalVigilance]

he did violate the no preference clause

Is that to be found somewhere along with the 'separation of church and state' myth?

[hyperpoly8]

If he's elected governor, I feel sorry for the folks of Alabama. He's already shown his contempt for the judicial system, so now he's branching out.

[Dante3]

Moore hasn't pushed his religious views on anyone. I believe it was Ann Coulter (or Michelle Malkin?) who had an excellent article about him.
<P<Moore would make an outstanding governor.

[qam1]

Is that to be found somewhere along with the 'separation of church and state' myth?

that no preference shall be given by law to any religious sect, society, denomination, or mode of worship;

What part of "No preference" don't you understand? It's quite clear.

So yes, If he allowed the Atheist Atom and the MLK speech monuments up he might have a case, But by requiring everything pass his "my god, my way" criteria he is violating the "that no preference shall be given by law to any religious sect, society, denomination, or mode of worship;" clause.

[EternalVigilance]

Not a single one of the founders, even the most irreligious, would have believed that the Ten Commandments were a sectarian statement.

[fieldmarshaldj]

He's gonna be a fantastic Governor, don't you fret none.

[hyperpoly8]

It doesn't bother me, I live in Nebraska. We're a lot more tolerant of everything out here.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Tolerance is in the eye of the beholder. ;-)

[hyperpoly8]

Yep. I'm pretty tolerant. That's why I'm glad he's clear over there, so I don't have to test it.

[fieldmarshaldj]

You don't sound too tolerant. Tolerance means tolerating those individuals and positions you may not like. Those that often preach it the most are those that are often the most untolerant. I, on the other hand, declare myself to be quite intolerant to those notions, ideals, and people that seek to destroy the culture, and I'm very proud of being positively intolerant towards the intolerable. :-)

[hyperpoly8]

Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't even mind him living next door to me, except for the reporters all over the lawn, I just wouldn't vote for him.

[righthand man]

Eternal Vigilance, you need to read : qam1 : profile , hes a cerified nut case in his own rite.

[EternalVigilance]

Ah...

[danamco]

Of course.Crackpots are like that.


Yes, your own language and opinion seems to confirm that!!!

[TomDoniphon68]

Then I guess you could put men such as Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, Paine, and Hamilton in the 'crackpot' category.

Your syllogism is flawed. One need not be a crackpot to have strong convictions.

Hopefully, you can understand this simple explanation.

[TomDoniphon68]

Uh,oh...another powerful argument.

See prior post above.