Skip to comments.Kerry Wants To Go Back To 9/10, Doesn't Think 3,000 Dead Americans Is A Big Deal
Posted on 10/12/2004 12:05:53 PM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy
Now, in that New York Times Sunday Magazine piece, there are some quotes in here that are just stunning. This is a piece by a reporter named Matt Bai, B-a-i. Kerry said, "9/11 didn't change me much at all." Richard Holbrooke, his likely pick for the state department, secretary of state, said, "We're not in a war on terror," and of course the American people are just stupid and they don't understand Kerry and his advisors. Let me give you some of the actual quotes from this piece. "When I asked Kerry how September 11th had changed him, either personally or politically, he seemed to freeze for a moment. 'It accelerated...' He paused. 'I mean, it didn't change me much at all. It just sorted accelerated, confirmed in me the urgency of doing the things I thought we needed to be doing. I mean, to me it wasn't as transformational as it was kind of an anger, a frustration and an urgency that we weren't doing the kind of things necessary to prevent it and to deal with it.'
Now, now keep that answer in mind, because he doesn't want to deal with it. He doesn't want to. We had ten, twelve years of terrorism prior to 9/11. He didn't want to deal with it then. Never complained about what wasn't being done to stop terrorists acts back then. "When I asked Kerry what it would take for Americans to feel safe again, he displayed a much less apocalyptic worldview. He said, 'We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives but they're a nuisance. As a former law enforcement person I know we're never going to end prostitution; we're never going to end illegal gambling, but we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise, it isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life.'"
Now, what in the world do you think he possibly means, because if you go back and look at the first quote: "It wasn't as transformational as it was kind of an anger, a frustration." His whole theory therefore is to treat it like prostitution and illegal gambling and organized crime. How do we deal with those issues? Law enforcement! So he wants to continue to deal with terrorism as a law enforcement issue. Which administration made a career out of doing that and got us nowhere? The Clinton administration. Anybody remember Jamie Gorelick? The entire time of the Clinton White House we fought terrorism as a law enforcement issue and in fact we erected a wall because of Jamie Gorelick's memo that prevented the FBI and the CIA from sharing data because it wasn't allowed -- because the grand jury testimony must be secret. And so we fought it as a law enforcement issue and back then I guess maybe to John Kerry back in the 90s, starting in '93 with the World Trade Center bombing, not that many people died. That's just a nuisance, not something we had to really deal with.
We went after the guys that did it, the blind sheik and Ramzi Yousef. We put 'em in jail. Fine, dealt with it, over, move on, continue to focus on the happy times of life. Then came the USS Cole, and then came the Khobar Towers, and then came all these -- we had Mogadishu where we lost a bunch of troops to terrorists but that was just a nuisance and we were fighting it with law enforcement. In fact, we were so good at law enforcement that when the Sudanese offered us Osama bin Laden, Bill Clinton turned him down two or three times because our law enforcement, he said, didn't provide enough grounds to hold him. So the law enforcement? We didn't have to even deal with bin Laden. It was so wonderful we didn't have to accept him. We could just pretend he didn't exist and terrorism was a nuisance. When the USS Cole blew up or when the Khobar Towers happened or when the Marine Barracks blew up in the 80's under Reagan, yeah, just a nuisance.
So let's go back to those days where Americans die occasionally. Let's go back to the days where 10, 15, 20, 30, maybe a hundred Americans get blown up, but that's not 3,000 and we don't have to worry about 'em hitting us here in the United States. Let's go back to where it was just a nuisance and let's really rev up the subpoenas and let's really rev up the search warrants and let's really rev up law enforcement and let's take aim at the Patriot Act and let's rip it to shreds and let's do what we need to do to get back to the pre-9/11 mind-set that John Kerry wants everybody to think we're already in. This is the greatest illustration of what the 9/10 mentality is as I've ever seen. We want to get back to where terrorism was just a nuisance. "We're never going to wipe it out. We're never going to stop it. We're never going to defeat it. We just don't want it to increase."
Well, hell's bells! That's a hell of an agenda that's a hell of an objective. That's a hell of a way to look at life. We'll lose occasional American lives here or there, sort of like the shuttle blowing up, but we don't need to go to war over it. Accidents are going to happen. My friends, this is just incomprehensible. It's incomprehensible, and what makes it all the more incomprehensible is that this position is said to be very, very brilliant and intelligent and nuanced, and we plebes simply don't have the gray matter to understand the brilliance of this. Because, you see, underlying this, ladies and gentlemen, is this. John Kerry thinks that we will never, ever defeat terrorism, that it's always going to be around, and it's a mistake to try to defeat it because we will fail, and probably because we're largely responsible for it. We as Americans as the lone superpower have made ourselves a target. We must try to understand why the terrorists hate us. We must have diplomacy with people who are taking graft and in the midst of corruption with the UN with the oil-for-food program (news).
We must make friends again with the French and the Germans and Kofi Annan so that they can continue to corrupt these institutions with impunity with the pleasure and the stamp of approval of a John Kerry in the White House. Let all this stuff go on and its hunky-dory and the terrorists will be happy. Send them some money. Maybe we can invoke the Mario Cuomo idea back in 1991 when Saddam invaded Kuwait, Cuomo's solution was, "Hey, let's just give him an island." Well, let's give the terrorists an island. Let them pick any island. Maybe they want Barbados. Maybe they want Hawaii. Maybe the terrorists would like to have the Philippines. Whatever it is, give them something; show them we mean them no harm, and let's get back to looking at these people as a nuisance. Now, may I also, ladies and gentlemen, ask you to consider something in light of this quote that we must go back to the days where terrorism is just a nuisance, it's not a war, "There is no war on terror," as his secretary of state hopeful Richard Holbrooke says in the same article.
September the 11th, 2001: 3,000 Americans died. How many big events have there been since that date where we assumed there would be another terrorist attack? Or at least we prepared for one? We've had numerous baseball games, Super Bowls. We've had Olympics. We have had conventions, both parties. We have had elections. We have had any number of events. We've had Fourth of July three times. We have had parades with lots of people in New York City. We've had any number of ample opportunities for Al-Qaeda to strike again, to show the world that bin Laden is still alive and that they're still cooking, that they're still steaming straight ahead and they're not weakened whatsoever. There have been plenty of opportunities for them to blow to us smithereens again and again and again and none of those opportunities have seen a terrorist attack.
Wonder why? Could it be that we're maybe engaged in a war against these people and we have them discombobulated and maybe we've taken them off their game, and maybe 75% of Al-Qaeda's leadership is dead, and maybe because we've got them distracted in Iraq they can't focus on us here in the United States, and maybe we're doing a pretty damn good job of homeland security here, and maybe it is because we don't look at it as a nuisance but we do look at it as a war? We're winning the damn thing and here we are three weeks away from the election and the Democratic nominee for president wants to go back to 9/10 where it was just a nuisance, where a couple of Americans or 20 or a hundred die every six months or every two years, we can manage that. We can deal with that. But we don't have to go to war. Well, you can take what this man believes, you can stuff it in a thimble, and you will still have room for the intelligence of a mynah bird.
Can I read those two quotes to you once again? I'm going to ask you if there's a word in here that you don't hear, and this is why Kerry is in trouble. He said these two things and they're absolutely idiotic. They are dangerous. I know what he's trying to say. He's trying to say, "Hey, we're never going to wipe it all out. We're never going to get rid of total terrorism," meaning there's always going to be some wacko who gets hold of a bomb and blow up something. But that's not what he said, and of course we're not smart enough to understand the nuance of what he said. We know full well what he said. You know what I think it boils down to, folks? I'm going to tell you the truth. I am assuming, based on these two quotes, that John Kerry really doesn't think 3,000 Americans dead in one day is that big a deal, doesn't warrant what we're doing. I don't think he thinks that World Trade Center warrants what we are doing. Not if he's going to say this.
If he's going to say, "We need to get back to where it's a nuisance. We don't want 3,000 Americans dead in one day, maybe 120 every six months or so, but not 3,000 in one day." I know some of you are going to think this is callous, but this is more people than died at Pearl Harbor, and if you add up all the Americans that have died at the hands of these people in the last 15 years, it's a serious problem. It's not just one event, 9/11. 9/11 is finally when we, you know, got our act together and started doing something about it -- and he doesn't seem like he wants to! He doesn't seem like he wants to do anything about it. You can't beat these people as a law enforcement issue. You listen to these quotes, "Well, didn't change me much at all, sort of accelerated, confirmed in me the urgency of doing the things I thought we needed to be doing. I mean, to me it wasn't as transformational as it was a kind of anger or frustration," blah, blah, blah. There's no but in that quote.
Next quote. "When I asked Kerry what it would take for Americans to feel safe again he displayed a much less apocalyptic worldview....'Well, we have to get back to the place we were where terrorists are not the focus of our lives.'" Well, how do you do that, first off? You just wish it? You just hope it? You just act like we're not going to threaten them? Let 'em have Iraq? Let Muqtada al-Sadr have whatever he wants, give up the Sunni triangle; let these people do whatever they want to do? Is that the way to do it, senator? He says, "As a former law enforcement person, I know we're never going to end prostitution, we're never going to end illegal gambling. We're going to reduce it, organized crime to a...'?" By the way, it's very strange to hear a liberal Democrat talking about being hard on crime. This is a new one on me. These people generally are not the ones who are hard on crime, and if you go back and look at the Clintons in the 90s fighting this with law enforcement techniques, it doesn't stop 9/11 even though the ringleader was handed over, was offered to us because of we didn't have the legal mechanism to hold the guy.
Amazing. After Mogadishu, after the Khobar Towers, after all of these terrorist acts, the '93 World Trade Center. Mind-boggling. But nowhere in this quote is the word "but." That is why Senator Kerry is in trouble with it. He didn't qualify anything. Here's his hopeful -- this guy has never wanted anything more in his life than to be secretary of state. Here's Little Dicky Holbrooke, folks. He said in this same piece. "We're not in a war on terror in the literal sense. I mean, the war on terror is like saying the war on poverty. It's just a metaphor. What we're really talking about is winning the ideological struggles so that people stop turning themselves into suicide bombers." Uh, Mr. Holbrooke, suicide bombers are occurring primarily in Israel. They are Palestinians. The other form of terror, I mean you've got the 9/11 guys yeah, but most of these terrorists are fighting for their lives. This is another big myth that these guys all want to die and head up north to meet Allah and the 73 virgins. These people are not willingly committing suicide. Not on a day-to-day basis, and winning the ideological divide, what do you think this is all about? Freedom in Iraq, Mr. Ambassador! Having liberty in Afghanistan and elections and liberty in Iraq. What do you think this is about? It's about changing the ideological makeup of those two countries by allowing liberty and freedom to take hold. These people are dunces! These people think they're the smartest people in the room, that we don't have the brains to figure out what they're saying, and the truth is, we know every word of what they're saying. They are getting their message out, and some of us are scared to death over the utter incompetence that comes out of the mouths of these supposed elitist, smarter-than-anybody-else-in-the-room guys.
Never forget that they killed 3000 but if the towers were full and the pentagon and other targets were hit it could have easily been 50,000.
He didn't say 3000 dead was not a big deal. He said it was a nuisance...
"We're never going to wipe it out. We're never going to stop it. We're never going to defeat it. We just don't want it to increase."
Thats why I and John Edwards want to give the Iranians fuel and have bilateral talks with the N. Koreans. We believe that a pattern of appeasement will embolden the enemy to make larger strikes that will kill 100,000, perhaps a million people. Now then, we are talking about some death!
"I think there's been an exaggeration; [President Bush] has exaggerated the threat of terrorism. There needs to be a refocusing, They are really misleading all of America... in a profound way. "
Democratic presidential debate
1968- July 23rd Three members of Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine hijack an El Al plane to Rome
November 22nd Twelve people were killed at a bombing in the market in Jerusalem
1969- February 18th An El Al aircraft in Zurich Switzerland was attacked, the copilot was killed
February 21st were killed and eight injured in a bomb blast in Jerusalem
August 29th A TWA 707 was hijacked by Palestinian terrorist to Damascus
September 29th A TWA plane flying from Rome to Lodi Italy was hijacked to Damascus
November 27th- The El Al office in Athens was attacked. Innnocent bystanders were killed
1970- February 10th. A bus carrying passengers to an a plane is attacked by Palestinian terrorist at the Munich airport
February 21st- A Swissair plane on a flight to Israel is blown up in mid air by Palestinian terrorists
April 21st- A bomb explodes aboard a Philippines airliners. All 36 aboard are killed
May 22nd Eight Israeli schoolchildren are killed by Arab terrorist
September 6th- An attempt is made to hijack four planes. The attempt to hijack an El Al plane fails, while three other succeed. The planes all end up in the Jordanian desert
1972- January 26th A bomb explodes on a Yugoslav plane killing all but one passenger
May 30th- 24 people are killed at Lod airport by Japanese terrorist recruited by Palestininians
July 21st twenty two bombs go off in downtown Belfas killing 11 people
September 5th Eleven members of the Israeli Olympic team are killed by Black semtember an arm of the PLO led by Yasir Arafat at the Olympic games in Munich
March 8th- Two IRA bombs explode in London killing one person and injuring 200
1973- August 5th Five people are killed when a Libyan terrorist group attacks a TWA plane
1974- September 8th Libyan terrorist plant a bomb on board a TWA plane flying from Athens to Rome, all 85 passengers are killed.
November 21st The IRA explodes a series of bombs in Birmingham England- 21 people are killed
1975- September 30th A Hungarian airplane explodes killing all 64 persons on board
1976- January 1st-Eighty-two people are killed aboard a Lebanese plane
June 24th- An Air France plane is hijacked to Uganda. Israeli later stages a daring rescue mission to free the hostages
1978 March 12th Thirty seven Israelis are killed on a bus by Palestinian terrorists
1979 -Nov. 4, Tehran, Iran: Iranian radical students seized the U.S. embassy, taking 66 hostages. Fourteen were later released. The remaining 52 were freed after 444 days on the day of President Reagan's inauguration
1981- April 19th -Thirteen people were killed and 177 injured in a terrorist attack in Davao Philippines
1982- August 6th- A kosher restaurant is attacked in Paris killing eight
19821991 Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was held for 2,454 days
1983- April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility
Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military
Septermber 29th- A Gulf Air plane explodes killing all 166 people aboard. October 29th- 241 US Marines are killed in a truck bombing in Beirut by the Islamic Jihad (controled by Syria)
Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 Marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut
Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. Two Americans killed
Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait Shiite truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80
1984-September 20th- The US embassy in the Beirut is bombed- 15 are killed
1985- April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82.
June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.
June 23rd 345 people are killed when Sikh terrorist explode a bomb aboard an Air India 747
Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to Libya
Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya
1986- April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9
April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds
September 5th A Pan Am aircraft is hijacked by Palestinain terrorists. Twenty passengers are killed
1988- Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15 years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to victims' families
1992- The Israeli embassy in Buenes Aires is bombed and 14 die
1993- Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected
July 27th- Five are killed in a car bombing in Milan Italy
1995- March 20th 12 people are killed when nerve gas is released in a Tokyo subway
April 19, Oklahoma City: car bomb exploded outside federal office building, collapsing wall and floors. 168 people were killed, including 19 children and 1 person who died in rescue effort. Over 220 buildings sustained damage.
Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing five U.S. military servicemen
1996- June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. Thirteen Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001
1998- Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. Four men connected with al-Qaeda two of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large
2000- Oct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. Seventeen sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network.
2001- Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed two commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; two more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers
Would you call these atrocities nuisances?
........I suppose having your head hacked off with a kitchen knife is a nuisance also.......
........I suppose having your head hacked off with a kitchen knife is a nuisance also.......
IIRC, Kerry said many years ago that we could not defeat communism, but would just have to learn to live with it. Fortunately, we elected Reagan instead.
As usual, Rush has it right. There's a reason he has millions of listeners every day. Thank God for Rush!
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