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Libya arrests 'al-Qaeda' suspects: Libya has arrested 17 members
bbc.co.uk ^ | Monday, 11 October, 2004, 11:08 GMT 12:08 UK | bbc.co.uk

Posted on 10/11/2004 11:44:07 AM PDT by Destro

Last Updated: Monday, 11 October, 2004, 11:08 GMT 12:08 UK

Libya arrests 'al-Qaeda' suspects

Libya has arrested 17 members of a group linked to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network, officials say. Interior Minister Nasser al-Mabruk said the nature of the links was not yet clear, but the inquiry was continuing.

The men had entered Libya illegally and were arrested as soon as they arrived, the minister added.

Correspondents say Libya is emerging from decades of international isolation after abandoning its pursuit of weapons of mass destruction last year.

Last month Washington lifted its trade embargo against Tripoli as a reward for Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's decision.

The EU and the US imposed trade sanctions in 1986 in retaliation for what they saw as Libyan support for terrorist groups.

"The preliminary investigations proved that this group of 17 people had relations to Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda organisation, but the form and nature of this relationship is not yet clear," Egypt's official Middle East News Agency (MENA) quoted the minister as saying.

Libya remains on a US list of state sponsors of "terrorism".


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; libya
You know what is funny? Saddam was an idiot - if he followed Libya's lead like the secularist he was we would be lifting sanctions son him now and hailing his change and his crack down on al-Qaeda in Iraq.

All he had to do was fly the Iraq flag at half staff and send gushing words of sympathy our way and he would be in like Flynn.

Saddam and Gaddafi are sad to say - just the type of Arabs that the West wanted to deal with al-Qaeda types - quasi secularist nationalists.

Not a popular opinion to express but it is how I see it (after all did we not support secularist Iraq to hold back fundamentalist Iran? - see also current leader of Pakistan).

1 posted on 10/11/2004 11:44:08 AM PDT by Destro
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To: Destro

I really hope Bush brings up Libya and Saudi Arabia as allies in the War on Terror


2 posted on 10/11/2004 11:50:33 AM PDT by Fallstaff
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To: Fallstaff
He does but does not call them allies - which is smart. Calling them allies would be politically risky.
3 posted on 10/11/2004 11:51:39 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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In a perfect world maybe, but never works out in the end.

Alliances between Democracies and fascist regimes never last.

The US were partners with the Soviets in WWII. That ended when Hitler died.

General Noriaga turned sour.
This guy in Venezuela.

I could go on and on.

The dictators always seem to get to cocky and end-up doing something that sours the deal.
4 posted on 10/11/2004 11:51:59 AM PDT by t-1000
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Just observing. Democracies are none to trustworthy eitehr to tell the truth - see many in Europe.


5 posted on 10/11/2004 11:53:18 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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And you know what is sad?

If Clinton had gotten Libya to turn around like this, he would be nominated for a Nobel Peace, or should I say 'Piece', Prize.

On a separate note............. I always thought it was "In like Flint" is yours the Irish version?

6 posted on 10/11/2004 11:54:36 AM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: Destro

Lybia continues to wow me. Good for them.


7 posted on 10/11/2004 11:56:15 AM PDT by Se7eN
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To: Michael.SF.
http://www.idiomsite.com/inlikeflynn.htm

In Like Flynn: Dates back to 1945, refering to how easily movie star Errol Flynn could get women into bed with him.

8 posted on 10/11/2004 11:57:01 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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"In Like Flynn: Dates back to 1945, refering to how easily movie star Errol Flynn could get women into bed with him."

Really? Not from the sixties "My Man Flint" movie series starring James Coburn?


9 posted on 10/11/2004 11:58:28 AM PDT by jtmac40
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Nope.


10 posted on 10/11/2004 11:59:25 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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I am sure the movie producers took the idiom and changed it for the movie - by then that 60s generation was not that familiar with Errol Flynn and the idiom probably got confused with the movie's title as time went on.

The origins for "In like Flynn" are as follows:

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-inl1.htm

[Q] From Gustavo Bruckner: “What is the derivation of in like Flynn?”

[A] Reference books almost universally assert that this set phrase, an American expression meaning to be successful emphatically or quickly, especially in regard to sexual seduction, refers to the Australian-born actor Errol Flynn. His drinking, drug-taking and sexual exploits were renowned, even for Hollywood, but the phrase is said to have been coined following his acquittal in February 1943 for the statutory rape of a teenage girl. This seems to be supported by the date of the first example recorded, in American Speech in December 1946, which cited a 1945 use in the sense of something being done easily. The trouble with this explanation is that examples of obviously related expressions have now turned up from dates before Flynn’s trial. Barry Popik of the American Dialect Society found an example from 1940, as well as this from the sports section of the San Francisco Examiner of 8 February 1942: “Answer these questions correctly and your name is Flynn, meaning you’re in, provided you have two left feet and the written consent of your parents”. To judge from a newspaper reference he turned up from early 1943, the phrase could by then also be shortened to I’m Flynn, meaning “I’m in”.

It’s suggested by some writers that the phrase really originated with another Flynn, Edward J Flynn—“Boss” Flynn—a campaign manager for the Democratic party during FDR’s presidency. Flynn’s machine in the South Bronx in New York was so successful at winning elections that his candidates seemed to get into office automatically.

The existence of the examples found by Mr Popik certainly suggest the expression was at first unconnected with Errol Flynn, but that it shifted its association when he became such a notorious figure. Since then, it has altered again, because in 1967 a film, In Like Flint, a spy spoof starring James Coburn, took its title by wordplay from the older expression, and in turn caused many people to think that the phrase was really in like Flint.

11 posted on 10/11/2004 12:03:59 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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The men had entered Libya illegally and were arrested as soon as they arrived.....

Bush-"You can run, but you can't hide."

This is a direct result of "you're either with us or agin' us" doctrine, and pre-emtion, IMHO.

12 posted on 10/11/2004 12:04:45 PM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Michael.SF.

See 8 and 11.


13 posted on 10/11/2004 12:06:45 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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Thanks. I always enjoy learning of where these sayings come from. Too bad the website could not clarify this one:

'Trip the Light fantastic' vs 'Trip a light Fandango'

I have lost countless miliseconds of sleep over that one. ;)

14 posted on 10/11/2004 12:07:36 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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Edward J Flynn—“Boss” Flynn—a campaign manager for the Democratic party... was so successful at winning rigging elections that his candidates seemed to get into office automatically.

Boy, some things never change.

15 posted on 10/11/2004 12:13:24 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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Were the arrested really terrorists or mere nuisances?


16 posted on 10/11/2004 12:27:53 PM PDT by NRA1995 (Do we want to attack terrorism with MOABs or flyswatters?)
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To: Se7eN

I am still puzzled about Libya's sudden change of heart....
What was the REAL deal ?


17 posted on 10/11/2004 12:54:23 PM PDT by traumer
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Libya (Qaddafi really) saw that it could gain more with oil money than with force of arms - I think. He saw non Arab Africans accept him as a statesman as he showered them with money but he was ignored by Arabs. Qaddafi's WMD program was built to give what he thought would be a new Arab empire a fighting chance - since then he has washed his hands of the Arab stated - kicked out the Palestinians living in Libya after Oslo and found no need for WMD.

Money, not WMD/military might is the influencer of the new globalized world order.

18 posted on 10/11/2004 1:18:14 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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He is doing what Arafat did to fool the international community into thinking he has changed.


19 posted on 10/11/2004 1:51:12 PM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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