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Corporations are not capitalism: Vox Day advocates ditching Congress, conglomerates
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Monday, October 11, 2004 | Vox Day

Posted on 10/11/2004 1:14:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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1 posted on 10/11/2004 1:14:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

If a corporation buys back all its own stock, does it then own itself, rather than being owned by humans?


2 posted on 10/11/2004 1:35:41 AM PDT by per loin (This tagline has not been censored!)
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To: JohnHuang2

Bump to find later.


3 posted on 10/11/2004 1:42:41 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: per loin

No. It becomes privately-held.


4 posted on 10/11/2004 1:53:15 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: JohnHuang2

Interesting article. He neglects to point out how tax policy encourages individuals to work for corporations (i.e. the health care deduction which individuals can't take).

Painting corporations as the root of all evil is something I see on the left-wing whacko sites, though. I find myself rejecting his arguments on that basis alone. Maybe that isn't fair, but my gut says if the left is for it then it doesn't make sense.


5 posted on 10/11/2004 2:02:05 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: Scutter

He leaves out Hudson Bay Company, but that's to be expected.

The whole essay is based on a fear of large entities, whether they be governments or private companies. And then he goes out of his way to offer tenuous links between the two. Very simply put, how a large corporation behaves depends on the government. And how the government behaves -- in a democratic society --depends on the people. That is to say, the people get both the government and the corporations of their choosing.


6 posted on 10/11/2004 3:11:33 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: A. Pole; neutrino; ninenot

ping


7 posted on 10/11/2004 3:23:53 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: durasell
Very simply put, how a large corporation behaves depends on the government. And how the government behaves -- in a democratic society --depends on the people.

Lobbyists- Most of the folk who lobby Congress are either attys, or those who were in Gum't "service" before going to the private sector. To believe that our Gum't has not been corrupted by the process is extremely naive.

We started with the best form of gum't, but what we have today is only a mirage. There is no control, by the people! The old addage of "follow the money" is the key.

The corporate interests, and the "special" interests they represent, are the most compelling reason to look to making changes in the tax system. Everyone wants to get some advantage for themselves, and their interests. IMO, It won't ever happen until we go to a different tax revenue system, and find better ways to monitor spending.

Isn't it amazing that a Fedrool Dept can overlook billions of dollars, and not be held responsible fo accounting! I guess they would find too many corporate jets and yachts, as "assets" being charged off!

8 posted on 10/11/2004 3:26:02 AM PDT by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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Depending on how far back you want to go -- we actually started with a hybrid of a corporation/government, then evolved into democracy. But that's neither here, nor there.

However, there is a bottomline -- the people are responsible for the actions of their government. That is to say, we should take as much responsibility as pride in the U.S. And so far we've done a pretty good job.


9 posted on 10/11/2004 3:38:03 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: per loin

This immature crapweasel is about 14 years old.


10 posted on 10/11/2004 3:45:57 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: JohnHuang2

Is he advocating National Socialism.


11 posted on 10/11/2004 4:07:07 AM PDT by Always Right
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Conservatives would do well to remember that the next time that the corporations go to their comrades in Congress, demanding more violations of human freedom and more restrictions on individual liberty in order to sustain their vampirish unlives.

Bullsh*t - this is just more liberal tripe.
12 posted on 10/11/2004 4:21:44 AM PDT by Jaysun (SORRY, this tag line is not an instant winner. Please play again.)
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To: Always Right

No, not National Socialism. It's fringe anarchist stuff.


13 posted on 10/11/2004 4:23:36 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...
One of the most widely believed myths in America today is the belief that corporations are an inherent part of capitalism. Concomitant with this is the idea that big corporations and big government have an intrinsically hostile relationship and that the stock market is a free market. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Capitalism was already well entrenched and the Industrial Revolution was complete when the U.S. Supreme Court radically altered the concept of the corporate charter in 1886 by ruling that the Southern Pacific Railroad that was a "natural person" under the U.S. Constitution.
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The 1886 ruling trumped these efforts, fulfilling Thomas Jefferson's prescient fears. In a letter to George Logan written on Nov. 12, 1816, he wrote:
I hope we shall take warning from the example and crush in it's birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws our country.
[...]

Great find!

14 posted on 10/11/2004 4:46:06 AM PDT by A. Pole (MadeleineAlbright:"I fell in love with Americans in uniform.And I continue to have that love affair")
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To: Always Right
Is he advocating National Socialism.

Wrong! National Socialists LOVED the corporations.

15 posted on 10/11/2004 4:48:00 AM PDT by A. Pole (MadeleineAlbright:"I fell in love with Americans in uniform.And I continue to have that love affair")
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To: JohnHuang2
Lobbyists would have nowhere to go if first pols weren't whoring their power and influence.

The author neglects the obvious cause and effect.

16 posted on 10/11/2004 4:48:45 AM PDT by Zon
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To: Zon

Why hasn't this been zotted? Vox Day is rabidly anti-Bush.
He also has a very odd hair cut.


17 posted on 10/11/2004 4:51:00 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: JohnHuang2

Nice hair cut.


18 posted on 10/11/2004 4:55:39 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: 1rudeboy

And then who be the owners? Where is their title or written claim?


19 posted on 10/11/2004 4:56:31 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Scutter

VDay is a Libertarian; for him to make this argument is unusual, to say the least. That's why I paid attention to it.

Only problem: I don't know where he's going with this. Simply to state that 'the game is rigged'--well, it ain't necessarily so.

But he is right when he states that corporations are not necessary for Capitalism to exist. The larger question is whether Capitalism is ideal, and the answer is no.


20 posted on 10/11/2004 4:58:18 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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