[Vision]

How Bush Won Round 2

Because he got emotional involved. Emotions...that's everything in America today, forget facts by themselves.

[Cruz]

Excellent post, thanks

[blogblogginaway]

"Kerry also blundered with a weird attack on an $84 item in the Bushes' federal income tax return, supposedly from a timber business. "I own a timber company? That's news to me," said Bush, adding engagingly in what was the most natural moment in the debate, "Need some wood?" It turns out that Kerry relied on an Annenberg Web site that later admitted it had been confused, which left the Democratic candidate out on a hardwood limb."

But, but factcheck.org said that was true!

[clee1]

The NY Slimes published this?????

Somebody get me a paper bag - I'm hyperventilating.

[Wneighbor]

How Bush won the debate? Part of it's cause America already knows that he says what he means and means what he says. Then we see sKerry standing right beside him and the more sKerry does his double-talk next to Bush, the more obvious it gets.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

John Kerry's Discharge - He won't sign Form 180 - What is he hiding?

http://acuf.org/issues/issue21/040929pol.asp

What a young man did more than 30 years ago should not be a primary criteria in determining his qualifications to be President of the United States. George Bush has had almost 4 years now as Commander and Chief of the World"s largest military force and he should be judged on how well he has done. Yet John Kerry and the Democratic left won"t give it up. On almost a daily basis he says I served this country honorably as a young man in Vietnam (4 months/12 days) and I will serve this country honorably as Commander and Chief. Then the Left yells that George Bush got preferential treatment in getting into the National Guard and even failed to complete his guard obligations; even forging documents to prove their point.

The facts are that George Bush served honorably in the National Guard obtaining service points far in excess of the 50 annual service points required to meet his obligation. Records show that in 1968/69 he accumulated 253 points, 340 in 1969/70, 137 in 1970/71, 112 in 1971/72, 56 in 1972/73 and 56 in 1973/74. Points far in excess of the service agreed to and that required to meets his obligation and be Honorably Discharged. George Bush has never made his National Guard service a qualification to lead this country, nor has he ever questioned the service of John Kerry.

While the Left and the mainstream media have never questioned the Vietnam era service of John Kerry, they seem to feel that the record of George Bush 30 years ago should be of concern to voters in November. But what about John Kerry's record? We are told that he was a decorated veteran. We are also told that he was deeply involved in anti-war activities on his return from Vietnam in violation of his oath as an officer in the US Navy. By his own account of his actions and protests, he violated the UCMJ, the Geneva Conventions and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Further he met, on two occasions, with North Vietnamese negotiators in 1970 and 1971, while a Reserve Officer, willingly placing himself in violation of Article three, Section three of the U.S. Constitution, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

From here the record of John Kerry becomes unclear and the mainstream press won't demand that John Kerry sign a Department of Defense (DOD) form 180 that would release all of his military records. Records released by his campaign are confusing. There are indications that he was Honorably Discharged on Jan. 3, 1970, Feb 16, 1978, July 13, 1978 and even lately Mar. 12, 2001. Why the confusion on a relatively simple service event. Could it be that John Kerry received a less than honorable discharge in the early 70"s because of his anti-war activities? And then was pardoned for those activities when then President Jimmy Carter on January 21, 1978 ( Proclamation 4483) granted a full, complete and unconditional pardon to all persons who may have committed any offense between August 4, 1964 and March 28, 1973 in violation of the Military Selective Service Act or any rule or regulation promulgated there under.

Did John Kerry request that his service be granted an Honorable Discharge and it was finally granted in 1978? Only a complete release of his military records will show what actually happened during this period. And, to date John Kerry has refused to sign the necessary DOD form 180 which would allow for this release. If the Democratic Party, the media, and the Bush critics are going to demand, as they do on almost a daily basis, that George Bush release all of his records, should they not do the same for John Kerry?

Michael Ashbury is a noted researcher and author, and the author of ''Who is the REAL John Kerry?'' (Booksurge.com 2004). His website is at http://www.whoistherealjohnkerry.com

[GmbyMan]

So today I'm watching those weanies on Fox News Sunday and Bill Kristol doesn't seem to understand the desire for the Bush camp to try to paint Kerry as a strongly committed liberal after months of painting him as a flip-flopper. Mr. Kristol, if you read this site, let me help you out.

You see, up until now, the goal was to show the American people that this piece of crap Senator from Massachusetts talks out of both sides of his mouth. It's as if he's asking which ever audience he is appealing to: "What do you want me to say, I'll say it, I'll say it! Just please, please, please make me President. Please make me President!"

Bush's goal now is to show that you can't believe a thing that Kerry tells you he will do. You must look at how he's voted when he doesn't have a Presidential race bearing down on him to see what has been consistent about him. The truth is, John Kerry has always been a consistent liberal. He has always been against wars that actually help the US. Against tax cuts and for tax increases. Against anything resembling a cut in government spending. Against traditional values and any restrictions on abortion. Against the 2nd Amendment.

I think this move is ingenious. I just wish that the President had begun to hammer this home in the first debate and worry that we may have moved into a too little too late situation.

[DSBull]

Bush was so mean. Confusing the issues with facts and making the better debater look bad. How typically Republican to take a good man with good intentions and make him look terrible.

We intellectuals all know that Kerry has a plan to save us, no matter what we might need saving from. All we have to go on with Bush is what he actually has done. And that sort of thing as really got the Arab freedom fighters really emotional about US.



Notice: The previous was an endeavors into Sarcasm. To those who have lost their cookies, an apology is due..

[StJacques]

I have always loved William Safire's takes. He is the one conservative commentator who has such unimpeachable stature, for a career based in large part on his own integrity, which must grate on the editorial board of the New York Times to no end. I can only imagine that they keep waiting for the guy to die so they can totally spin the news, but Safire just keeps plugging away. I could go on and on about Safire's skills as a grammarian, his avoidance of rhetorical fallacies when presenting arguments, and more, but suffice it to say the guy is one of the best there's ever been.

William Safire, I wish you a long life indeed. And what a nice job you've done in analyzing this latest debate.

[freestyle]

On the war, Kerry almost eagerly made Bush's point, at first saying, "I do believe Saddam Hussein was a threat," and moments later denouncing Bush for being "preoccupied with Iraq, where there wasn't a threat."

The guy constantly contradicts himself in one sentence... He IS a Saturday Night Live skit.

• He says he won't give any country a veto for us to use force. Next sentence he says, But we have to pass a "global test.
• He says Bush exagerated the threat of Saddam, and then he says Saddam was a serious threat.

Too subtle?

[King Prout]

sit down, put down tasty libation, clear sinuses...
ok?
ok.

NYSlimes admits in print that

a. Bush won round two
b. Kerry is a dithering lying idiot
c. media bias favors Kerry

[Just Lori]

It turns out that Kerry relied on an Annenberg Web site that later admitted it had been confused, which left the Democratic candidate out on a hardwood limb.

This is just ONE of about one HUNDRED reasons why this man should NEVER become President of the United States of America.

[Bushruffneck]

" Nowhere to run to baby, nowhere to hide ".,.. come on people sing it with me and with (Martha and the Vandellas.) It is the theme song for the rest of the campaign"

[rscully]

While I was watching the debate my liberal brother called me laughing and said, "I gotta hand it to you. Your man Bush is beating the ever-living crap outta Kerry tonight. It's actually hilarious!" That was a priceless moment, let me tell you! BTW, he isn't voting for Kerry, he's voting for Nader, tee, hee!

[DTogo]

NYTimes... an op/ed I agree with...

Ah, Bill Safire! :)

[DSBull]

Here is the truth people, ready, hey quite in the back...

OK, when people begin to fall behind in a attempt to gain something that is really important to them, and the outcome begins to look bleak for them, those without character sink into desperation. In desperation, mistake are always made, and the more desperate, the more silly the mistakes become, to the point of apparent insanity.

This is proving itself out in the Kerry campaign. Things are slipping down towards the abyss and more and more, acts of desperation are being seen.

Vandalism, spouting out Internet rumors, quoting things as facts before checking them out. If I am right, the next few weeks should prove to be most exciting and entertaining.
It is also fun to note, that most of this started with the addition of Clintonistas to the campaign..

It is good to be alive and Republican..

OK Class, you may adjourn to recess, Hey Matthew, don't touch Lisa like that...see me after class..

[Salvation]

**In an anguishing moment, Kerry said he was against partial-birth abortion (as are most voters, including many pro-choice) and then explained why he voted against the ban that is now law. Countered Bush: "He was given a chance to vote and he voted no. . . . It's clear for everybody to see. And as I said, you can run, but you can't hide." **

Bush definitely got one on Kerry here.

No one who is against abortion should be voting for Kerry. Kerry is a CINO (Catholic in Name Only). Catholics should not vote for him!!!!

[Cableguy]

Excellent read

[Christian4Bush]

bttt

[Deb]

Thanks, Safire, for reminding me how much I hate Hagel and Lugar.