Revenge Fears High After Russia's Mourning

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By MIKE ECKEL, Associated Press Writer

BESLAN, Russia - Last week, Tanik Kuizev buried a niece who was among hundreds who died after a North Ossetian school was seized by raiders that included members of the rival Ingush ethnic group. After Wednesday, he vows, he will bury an Ingush to be killed in retribution.

Fears are high that Ossetians will seek bloody revenge for the more than 330 people — more than half of them children — who died in the maelstrom of gunfire and explosions at the school on Sept. 3.

Russians traditionally observe 40 days of mourning after a death. Wednesday is the 40th day, and Ossetians say the end of the mourning period could herald an outbreak of interethnic violence in days to come.

"There will be violence. It won't be noisy. It will be quiet — one person at a time," Kuizev said as he wandered through the burned-out husk of the school, stepping over flowers and stuffed animals left in memory of the victims.

Although Kuizev's 12-year-daughter was among the hostages, she survived. But that hasn't softened his anger.

"They say, 'forgive, forgive.' How do you forgive something like this? How do you explain this? Forgive? No way," Kuizev said.

"It's not a secret that we are waiting" for the end of the 40-day period, said 67-year-old Sergei Tandaleyev of the village of Sunja.

"We will demand that (the Ingush) leave. All of them," he said. If they don't, "there will be war."

Venom and fear run deep between the Ingush and the Ossetians — two of the myriad ethnic groups that mix uneasily in the Russian Caucasus region, which also includes Chechnya (news - web sites), where rebels have been fighting Russian forces for more than five years.

Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev reportedly claimed responsibility for the school seizure and said at least nine of the 32 raiders were ethnic Ingush.

The Ingush are predominantly Muslims and are closely related to the Chechens; Ossetians are overwhemlingly Christian and historically have had close ties with Russia.

The Ingush and Chechens were exiled en masse to Central Asia under Soviet dictator Josef Stalin. In 1992, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, thousands of Ingush who had returned from exile were evicted from their homes in towns around the North Ossetian capital, their belongings looted and houses burned. Hundreds died in 10 days of fighting.

Thousands of Ingush remain in squalid, makeshift towns and refugee camps on the border between North Ossetia and Ingushetia. Those that remain in North Ossetia are subject to harassment, discrimination, and after Beslan, death threats. Many Ingush still claim title to lands and homes now occupied by Ossetians.

Last month, Ruslan Aushev, a former president of Ingushetia, warned that revenge attacks could destabilize the entire Caucasuses. He appealed to authorities to calm relatives of the Beslan victims. But many Ossetians say they are cleaning their guns, many of which were acquired during the last round of violence in 1992.

Russian authorities have vowed to prevent revenge attacks, dispatching hundreds of extra police and troops to the region. President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) has said anyone who commits revenge attacks would be siding with the Beslan terrorists.

Meanwhile, frightened Ingush youth have left universities and institutes. Ingush parents are afraid to let their children go to school with Ossetian children.

In the makeshift border town of Maiski, east of Beslan, some 240 Ingush families live in houses made of tarpaper, plastic tarpaulins, particle board and blankets. Wires hang haphazardly above dirt paths where filthy children run amid cows and chickens. Water comes from a leaky corrugated metal tank.

Resident Mubari Azdoyev, 45, says he sympathizes with those who died at Beslan but he angrily recalls how Osssetians forced him and his family to flee their home near Vladikavkaz in 1992.

"All the world watched Beslan suffer. They gave money. They sent help. And where was the world 12 years ago, when they shot our sons in front of our eyes?" Azdoyev said. "In 1992, it was worse than in Beslan."

At School No. 1, the gymnasium walls are lined inside and out with rows of flower wreaths, and scrawled with graffiti including "Answer for the children."

Georgi Kozarev, 34, said he watched from a nearby apartment balcony as the chaos and slaughter erupted on Sept. 3. He said he later helped a mob lynch one of the fighters who had escaped the school and changed into civilian clothes.

"The elders are saying: 'No, no. There's no need (for violence),'" he said. "But an eye for an eye. How does one understand this? How do you forgive it?"

[RightWhale]

Wednesday. Is Putin also waiting until then?

[ClearBlueSky]

Were I the President, it would have been on 9-12, my friend.
Tomorrow would be good too.

[TexasCowboy]

I am a Christian, but your philosophy is the same one that killed hundreds of thousand of Jews during the Holocaust.

Let's not forget that Jesus Christ lived among us a Lamb of sacrifice, but He comes back as a Warrior.

[NY Attitude]

Sounds like a plan. The only thing better is when the plan comes to fruition.

[jslade]

Go for it! Exterminate the vermin.

[ontos-on]

If what you say were true, I would be with you. But, are you sure of the following major premises to your reasoning:

1. If you BELIEVE in Islam, you BELIEVE that it must rule-even this country. AND

2. it's about people whose 'religion' is 100% against everything for which this country stands.

[NY Attitude]

For more than 3 decades, the Islamic religion has morphed into a religion of hatred. We saw it initially during the Iranian revolution where the Mullahs had regained power and their thugs the Revolutionary Guard exacted their will upon the people. We have seen it with the Ayatollah Khomeini and others like him. We are currently seeing the same from Sadr and his followers. Unfortunately, here in the US there are people that are sympathetic with that type of action.

[rdb3]

I am a Christian, but your philosophy is the same one that killed hundreds of thousand of Jews during the Holocaust.

I understand your angle, but you're missing my point.

Self-defense is a Biblical principle. Stirring up a lynchmob is not.

The Apostle Paul tells us, again, in Romans 12:17 "Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men." How can we escape His judgement by doing what He will rightly judge others for?

Chechnya has been a terrorist beehive for a while for the Russians. The head of this snake, connected to Al Qaeda, is operating at full steam there. Go get it. Like the Bush Doctrine, take this fight to the enemy with the mind on crushing it in its entirety. Hunting down those who are conspiring to kill you is self-defence. That's righteous.

Murder for murder is just that, murder. It will accomplish nothing unless a Phyrric victory is desired. I can't think of anyone sane who thinks that type of victory is what is wanted.

If you want to honor those precious, innocent children who were slaughtered like sheep in an everlasting fashion, do it the right way. Let their untimely deaths count for something. And like our innocent incinerated in the WTC, some good can come out of their involutary sacrifice.

I am no one's dove. Believe me.

$710.96... The price of freedom
VII-XXIII-MMIV

[Unknowing]

Reminds me of the death of the Klickitat leader, Kanaskat, a little over a hundred years ago. According to the account by Erasmus Darwin Keyes, Kanaskat was famous for "the ingenious devices of torture that he would practice on his victims." A soldier shot Kanaskat, and brought him into the Army camp, still alive. Kanaskat shouted, "my heart is wicked toward the whites, and always will be, and you had better kill me."

So good old Corporal O'Shaughnessy "placed the muzzle of his rifle close to the chieftain's temple, blew a hole through his head, and scattered the brains about." We can assume, perhaps, that the rifle was chambered in .45-70 Government.

All we need are a few Cpl. O'Shaughnessy types working as LEO's, maybe?

[tomnbeverly]

How can you forgive them while they are cutting off Americans heads.... I agree... Our lives mean less then cockroaches to the Islamic Fundamentalists.

[Ciexyz]

Yikes, what a mixture of ethnic passions in that region.

[Smartass]

Good story...

THANKS FOR THE PING!


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[Happy2BMe]

>> "Could YOU do this to someone who killed American children in an American school on US soil?"

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Ping on #49

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A military term for these situations (not heard anymore due to political correctness) used when retaliatiing against the enemy works very well for me . .

"With EXTREME PREJUDICE"

[Prime Choice]

Could YOU do this to someone who killed American children in an American school on US soil?

Yes, sir. Without hesitation, sir. From several hundred yards if necessary, sir.

[Happy2BMe]

You are very wrong sir. You underestimate what it will take to see the true patriots roll out onto the streets.

Not just in the hundreds, thousands, or ten thousands.

We're talking MILLIONS here.

[ApesForEvolution]

Works for me too. Some people just need killin...

[ApesForEvolution]

Let's pray we don't have to find out, that no weapon formed against us shall prosper...killin ain't fun nor pretty.

[ApesForEvolution]

There's a cancer emerged from a God-hating cult that, if not eliminated, will kill the patient eventually. Could be tomorrow, could be 10 or 20 years.

Should we wait for out patient surgical procedures to take root, or just clean it all out and be done with it...start the rehab and recovery??

[TexasCowboy]

"You are very wrong sir.
You underestimate what it will take to see the true patriots roll out onto the streets."

What I wrote was a challenge.

I'd like for everyone to think about this because it could happen.
If it does, there needs to be a mental preparedness for the action necessary.
There can be no hand wringing and wishing it hadn't happened.
We'll have to do what we have to do - period.

[ontos-on]

For more than 3 decades, the Islamic religion has morphed into a religion of hatred.

OK

We saw it initially during the Iranian revolution where the Mullahs had regained power and their thugs the Revolutionary Guard exacted their will upon the people.

OK

We have seen it with the Ayatollah Khomeini and others like him.

OK

We are currently seeing the same from Sadr and his followers.

OK

THEREFORE............ (what exactly???)

??Deport all people of Islamic affiliation regardless of whether they are US citizens or not and regardless of whether they have done anything wrong????

If that is what you are trying to get to, count me out; I think count the United States out too.

I am all for sensible profiling to find real threats and no BS about enforcement. And I would deport all those who are here illegally. But don't become goons who just punish innocent people because of their religion---in order to make you feel better.

We are not savages from the Russian frontier where we have "ritual revenge killing sprees". Keep your head and don't accuse me of being soft.