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NEW ABC NEWS POLL,"Bush and Kerry neck and neck B-50% K-46%
ABC news | 10-10-2004 | ABC NEWS

Posted on 10/10/2004 5:42:19 AM PDT by bakatare

Oct. 10, 2004 — Among the sentiments fueling the 2004 election, put anger on John Kerry's side: On the subject of George W. Bush, his supporters are riled.

Nearly half of likely voters who support Kerry are "angry" about Bush administration policies. Anger peaks in some of Kerry's strongest support groups — liberals, Democrats and the non-religious. And it far outstrips the anger Bush supporters feel about Kerry.

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Anger, though, is not the only motivating factor in politics, and the race between the two men is still close: Fifty percent of likely voters support Bush in the latest ABC News tracking poll, 46 percent Kerry and one percent Ralph Nader. That's about where it's been the last few days.

Interviews for the horse-race results in this poll were conducted during the last four days, Thursday through Saturday. Interviews on voter anger were conducted earlier in the week, Tuesday through Thursday.

Anger/Enthusiasm

There are a few likely reasons for the anger sentiments found in this survey. One is that, in an incumbent election, supporters of the challenger are by definition anti-incumbent. Another is that Bush has policies for people to be angry about (or pleased with); Kerry, by contrast, has only proposed policies.

The last is that Bush has targeted his campaign more at motivating the Republican base, while Kerry has aimed his more at appealing to the center. Both are sensible strategies given the size of the groups at play: Conservatives, a core Republican group, account for just over a third of likely voters, while liberals, a core Democratic group, account for fewer, about two in 10.

The disproportionate anger with Bush means that, across all likely voters, 22 percent are angry with his policies, while just about half as many, 10 percent, are angry about the policies Kerry has proposed. (Democratic anger at Bush, as an aside, is gender neutral: About four in 10 Democratic men and women alike are angry about his policies.)

On the flip side, the candidates are about even in enthusiasm about their policies: Seventeen percent of all likely voters are enthusiastic about Bush's, 16 percent about Kerry's. Independents are five points more apt to be enthusiastic about Kerry's policies, but that's not a significant difference given the sample size; and moderates are 12 points more apt to be enthusiastic about Kerry, but moderates are a Democratic-leaning group.


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21 posted on 10/10/2004 6:22:48 AM PDT by SkyShot (Did John Kerry's mother have any children that lived?)
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To: True Capitalist
Also, President Bush leads in the electoral college which is what really counts.

Is there a tracking mechanism for the electoral college standings that appears to be objective, properly proportioned, and therefore believable? Seen a few and they vary substantially. Is W winning or losing the EC?
22 posted on 10/10/2004 6:49:17 AM PDT by schaketo (Notorious for skinny dippin' in the same pond as snappin' turtles)
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To: evad
Nearly half of likely voters who support Kerry are "angry"

Certainly angry enough to ransack several Republican campaign HQs, and squeeze off a few rounds at others.

The loss of power really brings out the best in liberals, hmm?

23 posted on 10/10/2004 6:50:14 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Drango

I do not agree that Republicans are not angry at the lies and character assassination that have been thrown at President Bush.


24 posted on 10/10/2004 6:53:59 AM PDT by rushmom
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To: Condor51

You're right! Any news organization that reports their silly internet poll results as news is irresponsible and NOT credible.


25 posted on 10/10/2004 7:01:26 AM PDT by lionstar (Has anyone ever seen John Kerry and Guy Smiley together at the same time? Hmmm....)
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To: bakatare; rushmom

"And it far outstrips the anger Bush supporters feel about Kerry".

You WANT some ANGER MSM? Call me ABC!!!! I got a whole $hit-load of ANGER for kerry. I could supply you with a 10,000 word essay on my hate for lurch (and the lurchette's)!

BRING IT ON!!!

LLS


26 posted on 10/10/2004 7:02:39 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (kerry... a girlie-man who built his life on a bedrock of lies, and derives his strength from EVIL!)
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To: schaketo
Dales does a good job at Dales electoral college breakdown

He is very thorough and objective.

27 posted on 10/10/2004 7:04:45 AM PDT by flair2000
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To: Drango
The election is all about turnout now.

Which is one reason that the polls are just a hair above meaningless. The polling groups have a wide variety of models to project turnout, and plenty of evidence that this election won't abide by any of the proven models.

Take, for example, the fact that many polls which query both likely and registered voters have shown that Bush has more favor among registed voters than among the likely voter sub-group. I don't believe I had ever seen registered voters lean more Republican than likely voters - ever! Does this mean that there is a large pool of people that have never voted before intending to vote for Bush? Does it mean that there are a lot of weak bush supporters that probably won't vote?

We won't know what it means until after the election.

28 posted on 10/10/2004 7:04:58 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: schaketo
Sorry, let me try this like for the electoral college breakdown.

Dales electoral college breakdown

29 posted on 10/10/2004 7:07:04 AM PDT by flair2000
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To: bakatare

Nearly half of likely voters who support Kerry are "angry" ..

So is this conservative at liberal lies!


30 posted on 10/10/2004 7:07:11 AM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: Dave S
Read Michael Barone's article today on RealPolitics.com for discussion of polls and turnout.

Sure that's the right URL? I get redirected to a list of links to stuff like DU and smirking chimp.

31 posted on 10/10/2004 7:09:45 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: bakatare

It's really hard to be angry at Kerry's policies when he can't seem to give us a clear description of what they are.


32 posted on 10/10/2004 7:12:10 AM PDT by ShandaLear (Senator Kerry for President of the Debate Team.)
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To: Drango

The only Dimocrat voters I know are bitter and angry, it seems to be a prerequisite to being a liberal.


33 posted on 10/10/2004 7:15:03 AM PDT by tiki (Win one against the Flipper)
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To: bakatare

I see that.


34 posted on 10/10/2004 7:16:15 AM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: bakatare
Not a reliable news source for an American
35 posted on 10/10/2004 7:17:31 AM PDT by Fast1 (Kerry Con "My only regret is I have but one Country to destroy for my presidencyā€¯)
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To: bakatare

Bush: 100%

Kerry: 0%


36 posted on 10/10/2004 7:18:00 AM PDT by BlindGuardian ("You'll pay for this Captain Planet!")
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To: bakatare
This Halperin memo went out directing ABC newsies to not apply equal standards. Under those rules, Bush 50 - Kerry 46 IS "neck and neck."
37 posted on 10/10/2004 7:18:25 AM PDT by VadeRetro (A self-reliant conservative citizenry is a better bet than the subjects of an overbearing state. -MS)
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To: bakatare

abc

Already
Been
Corupted


38 posted on 10/10/2004 7:18:43 AM PDT by TheEnigma47 (kerry will NEVER deserve forgiveness for his treachery to America's Military)
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To: bakatare

to: Skyshot

PERFECT description


39 posted on 10/10/2004 7:19:55 AM PDT by TheEnigma47 (kerry will NEVER deserve forgiveness for his treachery to America's Military)
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To: Drango
This anger from the left means they're mobilized. Unwashed hippies and soccer moms standing on street corners or knocking on doors to hand out Kerry literature. The election is all about turnout now.

I agree with you that's turnouts the key now; however, can either side win on hate alone? Remember how in '96 our side had great loathing for Clinton, and fat lot of good it did us. Here's hoping the same thing happens again, but with defeat for the libs and victory for us.

40 posted on 10/10/2004 7:21:08 AM PDT by gop_gene
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