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Kerry Stiffed (Wlady Pleszczynski)
The American Spectator ^
| 10/9/2004
| Wlady Pleszczynski
Posted on 10/09/2004 2:57:51 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Quilla
Re: Post 28. Hey, you found proof of Bush's timber company! The one he said he didn't know anything about. This picture will be all over DU (probablyh CBS and ABC, as well) proving that Bush was lying when he said he didn't own a timber company.
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posted on
10/09/2004 5:20:55 AM PDT
by
randita
To: maryz
Again, while I thought Bush improved marginally, he still has a problem marshaling his arguments. His answer on the stem cell research matter was indecipherable. I don't know how many times in debates one and two that he has allowed Kerry to get away with this "rush to war" bull when it is an easy matter to rebut.
He appeared ill at ease on many occasions whereas Kerry never batted an eye - probably due to the rigor mortis effect of the Botox treatments. Bush's mispronunciations and examples of poor grammar were too legion to list.
The only area where Bush was clearly the winner was in his evident passion about the need to succeed in this war, which Kerry seemed to treat as if it were just another wedge issue.
Finally, I was disappointed again with the chosen questions. There seemed to be a lot of them designed to ask Bush to justify some decision or course of action from the past and then Kerry could take his allotted time to "pile on" and second guess - a pretty easy game to play.
To: maryz
We all know some self made millionaires. I am positive a lot of FReepers fit that category. The ones I know are "The Millionaire Next Door" and you cannot tell their economic status by looking. One couple I know, with a grown son and three older teenage daughters are proud that their kids don't know if mom and dad are multimillionaires or budget-conscious, struggling small business owners. The parents want the girls to learn to work and to have the joy of self-achievement. If there is anything for them when mom and dad are gone, it will be a surprise and a gift, not a birthright.
If I saw THK on the street, I would not have any idea she had a billion dollars, either. You can buy Armani on line at discount, after all. You can buy Ferragammo shoes on eBay if you must have them.
Kerry made a huge gaffe with that class warfare observation and showed himself to be a snob.
To: rawhide
Sarah wanted to be assured that none of her tax dollars would be used to perform abortions and how would Senator Kerry ensure that.
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posted on
10/09/2004 5:35:35 AM PDT
by
esoteric
To: finnigan2
His answer on the stem cell research matter was indecipherable. It wasn't his best. But I thought Kerry's was worse, and it was a question to him -- that he didn't answer. The woman asked (and I wish she hadn't been so nervous, because it's a question that has to be asked a lot more than it is) why, when adult stem cell research has yielded so many great results and embryonic cell research -- in addition to being morally reprehensible -- has yielded none, he wasn't more interested in furthering adult stem cell research. Bush apparently opted to answer Kerry rather than address the original question.
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posted on
10/09/2004 5:44:31 AM PDT
by
maryz
To: reformedliberal
Kerry made a huge gaffe with that class warfare observation and showed himself to be a snob. Kerry is a snob -- he wouldn't know how to hide it because he doesn't know he is; he just thinks people with money are practically a different (and superior) species from those who have less.
Howie Carr had a great column last Sunday about a speech of Kerry's deploring "suburban sprawl" -- you know, it makes cars necessary and is bad for the environment, blah, blah, blah; Howie noted Kerry's five boats, all the SUVs and Teresa's plane. He ended with a terrific line:
"Vote for Kerry -- he's better than you!"
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posted on
10/09/2004 5:51:53 AM PDT
by
maryz
To: reformedliberal
you cannot tell their economic status by looking. Maybe at one time you could more than now (though even then not reliably), but not the past 40 years or so. My mechanic told me a story once about a guy he knows who looks and dresses basically like Joe Sixpack -- he went into a car dealership and bought new cars for himself and his four kids -- and paid cash.
I think Miss Manners notes in one of her books that years ago the really top of the line stores learned not to judge potential customers by their appearance.
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posted on
10/09/2004 5:55:16 AM PDT
by
maryz
To: nighthawks
No way Kerry won last night's debate! Bush smoked him on both substance and style. In fact, I'm now convinced that Bush won debate #1. The anti-Bush spin coming out of debate #1 was the result of an a priori strategy on the part of the paleomedia to crown Kerry the winner regardless, for if they wouldn't have done so, Kerry would now be toast.
To: Happy2BMe; maryz
But exposed in his thin tallness on the stage floor, particularly when caught in profile, Kerry came across as some sad mix of scarecrow and arthritis sufferer, unable to bend his back at all or even take an unstiff step.
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posted on
10/09/2004 6:26:22 AM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(The GOP throw their trash out. The DemocRATS worship theirs.)
To: MeekOneGOP
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posted on
10/09/2004 6:31:22 AM PDT
by
maryz
To: cp124
I've gone back and read all
nighthawks posts and I think calling him a troll is a little over the top.
I have noticed that lately, anyone who is a recent signup gets called a troll if they don't agree with the mindset of a lot on this board.
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posted on
10/09/2004 6:48:34 AM PDT
by
estrogen
(Please Lord, spare us from the Democrats)
To: Casloy
God bless-and thank you for your service as well as your local report. Great to know that our military supports President Bush.
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posted on
10/09/2004 6:54:35 AM PDT
by
sissyjane
(Silk pajamas for dress up, and flannel for everyday-perfect Freeper wardrobe!!)
To: nighthawks
Welcome to FR.
If you think Kerry won last night you are either on the wrong site, or you weren't watching IMHO.
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posted on
10/09/2004 6:55:36 AM PDT
by
sissyjane
(Silk pajamas for dress up, and flannel for everyday-perfect Freeper wardrobe!!)
To: Casloy
I just got back from a shopping trip to Camp Doha, Kuwait and had the privelege of watching about 30 minutes of the debate on the PX TV sets with about 10 enlisted men. Bush was fantastic and it was quite obvious who the military supports. At one point during the debate Kerry started listing off the military support he has: Gen McPeak, Gen Clark, Gen Shinseki, Crowe, etc.
I was waiting for W to say, "You may have the support of a bunch of retired generals, Mr Kerry, but I have the support of probably 90% of the boots on the ground currently defending this nation."
Would've been classic.
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posted on
10/09/2004 6:57:58 AM PDT
by
VeniVidiVici
(Not Fonda Kerry in '04 // Vets Against Kerry)
To: maryz
Kerry is another matter entirely. As someone has said, he can't help but treat people like help, and even to remind them they're help. Has anyone ever said anything more revealing than Kerry Friday night, apropos his tax hike promises on higher income brackets, when he said: "And looking around here, at this group here, I suspect there are only three people here who are going to be affected: the president, me, and, Charlie, I'm sorry, you too." And looking around here, in this tacky auditorium? At this group of obvious nobodies? That's what he meant. Wow - I missed that. Pretty snobby.
To: nighthawks
Bush did a lot better at this debate, but I think Kerry beat him.
Democrats like you have made your party the LOW IQ party in America today. Time to go back to DU and count your electoral votes. Read em and weep. America speaks.
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posted on
10/09/2004 7:05:06 AM PDT
by
Vinomori
To: tomnbeverly
Not if you do not value life as a first priority. This is exactly the Problem with the liberal argument for abortion .. .It holds no value of life... same with stem cells... same with cloning... A society that places no value on life will always fail... Well said - any philosophy that sets itself up against a knowledge of God will eventually fail.
To: maryz
One of my very first jobs back in the late 1950s was clerking in a clothing store. We made around $1.00 or so/hr and a commission. Those commissions were important.
It was a medium-sized town and a midlevel pricepoint shop. I learned quickly to watch for the plainly dressed farm wife with the purse that looked like a cross between a nurse's bag and a bank vault. She was always accompanied by a teen-aged daughter going off to college. These were huge sales, for me, at that time. Mom had cash, most likely egg money and she shopped for the best for her daughter. Many clerks ignored these customers, to my advantage.
I remember asking about someone in our town in the early-mid fifties who lived in an apartment, instead of a house (which was rare to me then). I was told:"They live there because they want to and they own the building". These people were quite wealthy and you would never have known it by looking.
To: rawhide
>> Mr. Gibson Going to go to the final two questions now, and the first one will be for Senator Kerry, and this comes from Sarah Degenheart.
Q. Senator Kerry, suppose you're speaking with a voter who believed abortion is murder, and the voter asked for reassurance that his or her tax dollars would not go to support abortion, what would you say to that person? <<
To: Zack Nguyen
Wow - I missed that. Pretty snobby Maybe you can catch a replay. He was very kindly about it, in a lord-of-the-manor way. (I.e., insufferable!)
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posted on
10/09/2004 7:13:02 AM PDT
by
maryz
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