[snugs]

**I am so sick of hearing about jobs, health care, etc.,etc., etc. I've seen so many poor workers/people who won't show up for work/people who won't work when they show up . . . yet we're supposed to provide for them.**

It is crazy homemom it is 2004 no one but no one can bring back manufacturing jobs to a western country. The company I work for in the UK has a joint venture company in China it is the only way that we can stay competitive. When are people going to get real about this all politicians on all sides shy away from this but the days of a government being able to create manufacturing jobs are gone.

We have a responsibility ourself to get meaningful employment and not expect government handouts, yes we need a social security back up for those that are not every capable of working or for a period of unemployment that we may have to face due to the changing world we live. We cannot though expect government to bail us out we must take responsibility ourselves this is a fundamental conservative belief and IMHO the only creditable viewpoint in 2004.

[homemom]

Hi snugs--

Lest I appear too "hard", I do believe in the gov't helping people who CANNOT work for a period of time due to physical/mental problems. But the qualifications should be strict and the time limited.

Responsibility to ourselves--YES!

How are your mom and dad?