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Bandits, including a foreign mercenary, eliminated in in Chechnya [one a US black]
ITAR-TASS ^ | Oct 8, 2004 | unknown

Posted on 10/08/2004 6:22:16 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko

GROZNY, October 8 (Itar-Tass) - Russian federal troops have eliminated four bandits in Chechnya’s Kurchaloi region. According to preliminary data, one of the four men was a foreign mercenary, an Afro-American.

According to a source in the regional headquarters of the counter-terrorist operation in the North Caucasus, work is in progress on the dead man’s documents, including a passport and a driver’s license.



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To: briant

But the article never said he was a muslim.


61 posted on 10/08/2004 7:59:49 AM PDT by rave123
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To: Mike Fieschko

Worthless scumbag was probably from Baton Rouge, LA. They have a pretty militant mosk out in that area. John Malvo is one example of the POS that comes from there.


62 posted on 10/08/2004 8:00:40 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: rave123
But the article never said he was a muslim.

Now that would make his presence in Chechnia even more peculiar

63 posted on 10/08/2004 8:01:48 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Why did you say Whitey? And personally the race being mentioned is a bunch of croak and the original poster knew it. They did it for just what is going on now.


64 posted on 10/08/2004 8:04:07 AM PDT by rave123
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To: BayouCoyote

Maybe he was a member of the black panthers. I guess the story will unfold a little later. Jihadwatch usually follows these in greater detail.


65 posted on 10/08/2004 8:04:58 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

It may be perculiar but the article never said he was a muslim.


66 posted on 10/08/2004 8:08:21 AM PDT by rave123
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To: Nathan Zachary

Great summary!


67 posted on 10/08/2004 8:10:24 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: asgardshill; dead
Shades of the "Phantom Blooper?"

Some historical background:

NEWSWEEK-August 12,1968 (abridged)"Last week members of a Marine reconnaissance patrol told of a skimish fought with an enemy unit near the town of Phu Bai. Among the Viet Cong killed was the apparent leader of the guerilla band-a slender young Caucasian with long brown hair.

The young white man was wearing a shabby green uniform with a red sah tied across his chest. In his hands was an AK-47, the Soviet-designed weapon used by the North Vietnamese regulars.

The Marines are convinced that the guerilla leader was an American, a Marine enlisted man who has been carried as missing in action since 1965.

In the past few months, they add, they have received a number of reports of Americans operating with the Viet Cong units in the Phu Bai area."

______________

So I find this Chechnya incident quite interesting...

68 posted on 10/08/2004 8:10:25 AM PDT by donozark (I fought at the Battle of Kimchi Ridge. The gas...the gas...it was HORRIBLE!)
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To: rave123

No, you'd be wrong, race is of importance, and the reasons are pointed out in this thread.

AL-Quada has been trying to recruit "less conspicuous" people of different ethnic backgrounds that can move around without drawing attention to themselves.
This guy, being black and in Chechnya is out of place.

This makes one wonder why he was there, what faction he belonged to, if he was a new convert to Islam, etc.

Color is very relevant in this case.


69 posted on 10/08/2004 8:11:30 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

JWers rock!


70 posted on 10/08/2004 8:11:58 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: donozark

Should read"...red sash tied..."


71 posted on 10/08/2004 8:17:49 AM PDT by donozark (I fought at the Battle of Kimchi Ridge. The gas...the gas...it was HORRIBLE!)
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To: Nathan Zachary

No, you'd be wrong. The appropriate question would not be his race but his religious affiliation.If Al Q has been trying to recruit people that are less conspicuous. Then a black man in Russia is not less conspicuous but more.
So, it still does not answer the question of why the poster added the race to the article. Except to incite this discussion.


72 posted on 10/08/2004 8:18:11 AM PDT by rave123
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To: asgardshill
Because it struck me as odd, and it fit in the 100 character limit on thread titles.

"All the 'news' that's fit to print". OK.


Not sure what that means.

Without the [...] I added, the article was another 'Dog bites man' story. The [ ... ] added changes it to 'Man bites dog' (a cliche example, but it illustrates what a good headline does).

Some rules I use for writing headlines:

1. Gets Attention

2. Tells the Story

3. Leads the Reader Into the Story. Use a headline to get the audience to read the story. The audience uses the headline to decide whether to read the story.
73 posted on 10/08/2004 8:19:32 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?")
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To: rave123
the original poster knew it. They did it for just what is going on now.

Please point out which post shows 'I knew it' and which post shows that I did it to provoke these exchanges.

(Also, it's courtesy to ping the person your post makes reference to.)

You're wrong about why I added the [ ... ] to the headline. See my posts.
74 posted on 10/08/2004 8:24:58 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?")
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To: asgardshill
Can't I be trusted to glean that "vital" piece of information by reading the article itself? My question was "Why did the original poster feel compelled to put it in the thread title?"

I don't seem to be getting an answer from the original thread starter, so I'll ask you:

What is the relevance of the man's race to this story?


Well newbie, I believe a few people have already answered you but I'll give it a shot anyway:

  1. Nobody knows if you can glean the vital info of the article but yourself.
  2. That being said, if that WASN'T added to the HL, in all likelihood the importance (relevance) of the story would be overlooked and the thread would be bypassed by most.

    Which brings us to 'Relevance';

  3. It's RELEVANT because until NOW you didn't find US citizens of any race fighting with and for the Muslim Chechnya Rebels TERRORISTS (aka 'bandits').
  4. It's RELEVANT because this means (proves) that the Muslim terrorists have infiltrated the US in other areas besides the 'Arab community'.
  5. It's RELEVANT because now, not only does the FBI have to monitor the Arabs - but that the nice, friendly, personable Black guy living next door to you CAN be a $%^&*ing terrorist.
  6. And it's RELEVANT because if this guy is a Merc and not a convert he's not doing it for Allah, but for the money. Ergo, his compunction to KILL YOU and/or your Family would be MORE likely. As it means that the terrorists are now basically hiring hit-men.

So if you don't see the RELEVANCE, I believe you're on the wrong website and should mosey over to www.bleedingheartliberals.com.

ps: I suggest you stop the race baiting - it won't fly here.

75 posted on 10/08/2004 8:29:20 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Sorry, next time I'll post sarcasm with an alert.


76 posted on 10/08/2004 8:29:34 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: rave123

Get real. Had his race not been mentioned, everyone would have assumed he was a white or near white guy that blended in with the ethnic population of the region, maybe chechnya being his ancestral homeland, and he being a muslim born and raised.
A black guy in the region sticks out like a sore thumb. Consider it from the point of view of someone who lives there, and seldom if ever see's black people.
hardly a position I would want to be in if I was trying to carry out terrorist activity. Might as well paint me florescent orange and put a flashing light on my head.

So, I can assume one thing, and that this guy was real dumb. You'd think he'd go fight for "Allah" in a place where black muslims don't draw attention to themselves.

I think you have sensitivity issues that prevent you from seeing the relevance of his color to this particular story.

The mention of his skin color points out something peculiar in this story. it isn't a slam against blacks like you seem to be suggesting.
And, you really don't know what color I am, do you?
You assumed I'm white. You really have no cause to, except as I said, your personal misguided sensitivity to this article and the poster pointing out that the perp was black.
I bet you assumed it was meant in a derogatory way before you even read the article, and considered the location and cother variables. Thus, you blinded yourself to the importance of the fact.


77 posted on 10/08/2004 8:38:09 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: dead

The only reason I read it was that it said "US Black". Criminy, mercernaries fighting for the Chechyns aren't news.

Now, did somebody say, "Cracker"?


78 posted on 10/08/2004 8:39:12 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Not Fonda Kerry in '04 // Vets Against Kerry)
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To: Mike Fieschko

Your original post-you knew it by perception. You were perceptive enough about this board to know that adding the persons race would incite the postings that have occurred. If you didn't you would have allowed the person to read the article, read the race, and then make whatever comments they wanted.
All of the posts that followed with such statements about black women, afros, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton....you can read.
So, I'm pinging you cause they all relate back to you.

Maybe you don't want to admit you made a mistake. But it's okay just try to refrain from such acts in the future or you will get these type of responses.


79 posted on 10/08/2004 8:39:56 AM PDT by rave123
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To: rave123
Your original post-you knew it by perception. You were perceptive enough about this board to know that adding the persons race would incite the postings that have occurred.

OK. You're right. I confess. You're smoked me out. Gotta replace the batteries in my Acme Tinfoil Mindreading Jammer. < /humor [clueless]>
80 posted on 10/08/2004 8:47:13 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?")
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