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I got this e-mail from Pax Christi and followed up with a visit to the . . . uh . . . non-partisan website from which it came. I gather George Soros is engaging in a "faith-based" initiative here.
1 posted on 10/06/2004 5:42:17 PM PDT by madprof98
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They can rest assured that I will vote on "all my values", and John Kerry won't like it.


2 posted on 10/06/2004 5:44:20 PM PDT by jpw01 (Freep the world!)
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Anyone who can say, "All my values include individual freedom, open borders, and big government," is suffering from naivete.


3 posted on 10/06/2004 5:46:13 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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Anytime you see the word "progressive" think "socialism", because that's what they mean by "progressive", and don't let anybody tell you different!


4 posted on 10/06/2004 5:46:25 PM PDT by perfect stranger (The Hummer is a regular Pat Buchanan on wheels." PJ O'Rourke from C&D magazine)
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2 Peter 2:1


5 posted on 10/06/2004 5:46:55 PM PDT by niteowl77 (John Kerry: over 30 years of proudly inciting hatred against American soldiers.)
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Exactly what is "Progressive Faith" anyway?


6 posted on 10/06/2004 5:47:19 PM PDT by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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Umm.. isn't Progressive Faith an oxymoron?


7 posted on 10/06/2004 5:47:29 PM PDT by Tweaker
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John Podesta

Isn't he a Clintonista?


8 posted on 10/06/2004 5:49:50 PM PDT by bigdog (Go Dick)
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We call for a mobilization of our community in a non-partisan voter mobilization effort called 'Vote ALL Your Values'

I dare them to walk with signs expressing their values. Abortion, gay marriage, no funding of faith based community programs, no Christian symbols in society, etc.

12 posted on 10/06/2004 5:53:24 PM PDT by Dolphy (Support swiftvets.com)
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According to my wife's minister Jim Wallis of Sojourners is a moderate. The progressives is a fancy sounding name to disguise the fact that they are freakin far left peace-at-any-price fanatics that refuse to believe that the 60's are gone and that world brotherhood is being blocked by Bush. Idiots.
14 posted on 10/06/2004 6:02:21 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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RE: Pax Christi USA. I did a quick google search:

www.tysknews.com/Depts/gov_philosophy/socialists.htm FrontPage magazine.com :: Fifth Column Bishop by Michael Tremoglie ... in his 2002 speech to the Pax Christi USA National Assembly ... are non-nuclear nations and are parties to the ... that could be characterized as Communists for Christ ...


NETWORK, A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby.
Socialism in America Socialism in America ... progressive movements for social change while establishing ... people develop the social bonds that render ... National Priorities Project. NETWORK: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby ...

www.tysknews.com/Depts/gov_philosophy/socialists.htm FrontPage magazine.com :: Fifth Column Bishop by Michael Tremoglie ... in his 2002 speech to the Pax Christi USA National Assembly ... are non-nuclear nations and are parties to the ... that could be characterized as Communists for Christ ...
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www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=6177 - 50k - Cached - Similar pages Bishop Thomas Gumbleton is an auxiliary bishop of the Archdiocese of Detroit and the founder of a Catholic peace organization called Pax Christi USA. Workers Daily Internet Edition Year 2002 No. 150 Christian Declaration on Legality and Morality of War with Iraq Yesterday, August 6, Pax Christi UK presented the first 2,500 signatures to the Declaration to Downing Street. They are continuing to gather signatures and will send them in batches to Downing Street. In a press notice of August 2, Pax Christi says: "Since its public launch in mid-July, the Christian Declaration questioning the morality and legality of war against Iraq has gained widespread support. The initial 100 signatories included Archbishop Rowan Williams, Anglican Bishops John Perry and Peter Price, Roman Catholic Bishops Malcolm McMahon, Thomas McMahon and Edwin Regan and academics and theologians from around the country. A further 2500 signatures * of support have been received from churches based groups, academics and individuals. Pax Christi, the organisers of the Declaration report that they have received much encouragement for the initiative. Many people said that had been looking for an alternative voice to that being offered by our political leaders and hope that the Declaration will generate serious reflection among decision makers. The Declaration appears to have captured the energy of convents, parishes, religious communities and families. It states: ‘It is deplorable that the world's most powerful nations continue to regard war and the threat of war as an acceptable instrument of foreign policy, in violation of the ethos of both the United Nations and Christian moral teaching. The way to peace does not lie through war but through the transformation of structures of injustice and of the politics of exclusion, and that is the cause to which the West should be devoting its technological, diplomatic and economic resources.’" The Declaration was presented on the anniversary of the first use of nuclear weapons at Hiroshima in 1945. The organisers believe there is a strong link between the two. Forty-three years on the British government still holds and threatens to use its nuclear weapons. Dr Tina Beattie, a member of the delegation presenting the Declaration, said, "When our elected leaders are considering fighting a war in our name, funded by our taxes, there is no morally neutral position. Christians have a responsibility to affirm certain fundamental principles of justice, and for those who consider that a military attack on Iraq would violate those principles, then there is a duty to speak out publicly. The response to this declaration suggests that many welcome an opportunity to do so, adding our voices to the growing number expressing disquiet in military and political circles as George W. Bush and Tony Blair prepare for a war that could further destabilise one of the world's most volatile and violent regions, with devastating consequences for all the people of the Middle East." * Includes: Rt Rev Michael Hare Duke, Bishop of Beverley, Bishop of Chichester (Anglican), Bishop of Galloway, Bishop of Northampton (Roman Catholic), Gerard Hughes SJ, Kathy Galloway, Leader, Iona Community, Wilfred McGreal O.Carm, Prior of Aylesford Priory Kent; Provincial leaders of the following religious orders: Daughters of Wisdom, Passionists, Carmelites, Comboni Sisters, Xaverian Missionary Society, Srs of St Joseph of Peace, Religious of the Assumption; Churches Together in Loughborough, Kings Lynn, Stockport, Highgate, Falnmouth, Wales, Manchester; General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church of Wales; The Iona Community Meeting in Plenary; Academics from Universities in Oxford, Birmingham, Lancaster, Cambridge, Edinburgh, Zambia; Religious communities in Kenya, Zambia, South Africa, Italy and concerned individuals from Australia, USA, Canada, Japan, India, Switzerland and Italy. Article Index


15 posted on 10/06/2004 6:05:29 PM PDT by 2ThumbsUp
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When did it become progressive to kill babies?

Actually, around about 1917.


16 posted on 10/06/2004 6:06:37 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Maureen Fenlon, OP, National Coordinator, NETWORK Catholic Social Justice Lobby

Whenever you see the words "Social Justice" just train yourself to insert the word Apostasy.
17 posted on 10/06/2004 6:07:37 PM PDT by badpacifist (1 Cor 11:27-30)
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God gave Christians a commission to care for the poor - and these folks are hell bent on outsourcing that obligation to government.

I can see why. Gives them more time to talk about important subjects like studying human sexuality and spinning ecumenical daydreams with elites from other denominations.


18 posted on 10/06/2004 6:09:06 PM PDT by DManA
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What is the "Progressive Faith Community?" Is that sort of like "The Church of Karl Marx?"


20 posted on 10/06/2004 6:10:09 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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Non Partisan, Right!!!


21 posted on 10/06/2004 6:12:07 PM PDT by ladyinred ("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
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This is heartbreaking.

Catholic Culture : Site Review : Pax Christi USA
http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/dissent/dissorg.htm

Catholic Culture : Site Review : Pax Christi USA
... Several articles encourage Pax Christi members to lobby to overturn the ban on the
homosexual ministry of dissident New Ways Ministry founders, Sr. ...
www.catholicculture.org/sites/site_view.cfm?recnum=1157 - 34k - Cached - Similar pages

RE: John Posest, Center for American Progress, former President Clinton's chief of staff.
http://d21c.com/of-christ/religiousleft.htm
Terry Mattingly

NETWORK: Catholic Social Justice Lobby
Social Justice ... National Association of Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries Family ... Jericho, California legislative Issues Network, Catholic Social Justice Lobby Bread for ...
www.oakdiocese.org/pastoral/SJ.htm - 19k - Cached - Similar pages


Dissenting Organizations ... homosexuality is not acceptable whatsoever, nor that gays and lesbians ... NETWORK, A group, billing itself as a Catholic Social Justice Lobby, was founded by ...
www.ourladyswarriors.org/dissent/dissorg.htm - 45k - Cached - Similar pages


25 posted on 10/06/2004 6:35:10 PM PDT by 2ThumbsUp
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"Rev. Jim Wallis, Editor, Sojourners Magazine" ~ madprof98

Saul Alinsky - The Religious Left follows him "religiously". Their magazine: Sojourners
http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.article&issue=Soj0003&article=000311

Rules for Radicals - By Saul Alinsky
http://www.e911.com/exacts/EA051.html

Reveille for Radicals - By Saul Alinsky
http://courses.cs.vt.edu/~cs3604/support/Assignments/alinsky.html

In the 60's, as a radical mentality herself at Wellesley, Hillary Clinton was so enamored of Saul Alinsky and his *methods* she wrote her senior thesis under his mentoring. She uses his "how to fool the useful idiots" tactics to this very day, and will use them in her quest for the presidency.

She's in for a surprise. We have her number.

As an aside ... at the "Sojourner Magazine" website linked above, a little window pops up asking the trick question, "Is Jesus a Republican or a DemocRAT?".

Wrong question.

The question they know better than to ask is, "Is Jesus a moral RELATIVIST?"


26 posted on 10/06/2004 6:42:03 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either religious relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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All the usual communists.


30 posted on 10/06/2004 7:04:30 PM PDT by kcvl
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The clergy of oppression - up to their usual.


36 posted on 10/06/2004 7:23:46 PM PDT by Noumenon (The Left's dedication to the destruction of a free society makes them unfit to live in that society.)
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I finally decided what I want to be when I grow up; a Gay, self-ordained high priestess of a transgendered, special-needs gang of marauding daredevils driving highly-modified supercharged wheelchairs with ape hangers and solid gold handicapped parking plaques front and rear.


37 posted on 10/06/2004 7:25:37 PM PDT by Old Professer (Fear is the fountain of hostility.)
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