Posted on 10/06/2004 5:42:17 PM PDT by madprof98
They can rest assured that I will vote on "all my values", and John Kerry won't like it.
Anyone who can say, "All my values include individual freedom, open borders, and big government," is suffering from naivete.
2 Peter 2:1
Exactly what is "Progressive Faith" anyway?
Umm.. isn't Progressive Faith an oxymoron?
John Podesta
Isn't he a Clintonista?
"Progressive," in that sense of the word, means something that is in favor of social anarchy. And social anarchy provides the socio-political climate for socialism.
That trend has been pushed in the USA for at least about 150 years. People like Henry Beecher and Susan Anthony started it in this country. ...that is, if I didn't miss any earlier proponents of the same while researching.
John Podesta was Clintoon's chief of staff
I dare them to walk with signs expressing their values. Abortion, gay marriage, no funding of faith based community programs, no Christian symbols in society, etc.
Ahh, I see.
I was thinking more of communism requiring total dedication to the State.
RE: Pax Christi USA. I did a quick google search:
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NETWORK, A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby.
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www.tysknews.com/Depts/gov_philosophy/socialists.htm FrontPage magazine.com :: Fifth Column Bishop by Michael Tremoglie ... in his 2002 speech to the Pax Christi USA National Assembly ... are non-nuclear nations and are parties to the ... that could be characterized as Communists for Christ ...
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www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=6177 - 50k - Cached - Similar pages Bishop Thomas Gumbleton is an auxiliary bishop of the Archdiocese of Detroit and the founder of a Catholic peace organization called Pax Christi USA. Workers Daily Internet Edition Year 2002 No. 150 Christian Declaration on Legality and Morality of War with Iraq Yesterday, August 6, Pax Christi UK presented the first 2,500 signatures to the Declaration to Downing Street. They are continuing to gather signatures and will send them in batches to Downing Street. In a press notice of August 2, Pax Christi says: "Since its public launch in mid-July, the Christian Declaration questioning the morality and legality of war against Iraq has gained widespread support. The initial 100 signatories included Archbishop Rowan Williams, Anglican Bishops John Perry and Peter Price, Roman Catholic Bishops Malcolm McMahon, Thomas McMahon and Edwin Regan and academics and theologians from around the country. A further 2500 signatures * of support have been received from churches based groups, academics and individuals. Pax Christi, the organisers of the Declaration report that they have received much encouragement for the initiative. Many people said that had been looking for an alternative voice to that being offered by our political leaders and hope that the Declaration will generate serious reflection among decision makers. The Declaration appears to have captured the energy of convents, parishes, religious communities and families. It states: ‘It is deplorable that the world's most powerful nations continue to regard war and the threat of war as an acceptable instrument of foreign policy, in violation of the ethos of both the United Nations and Christian moral teaching. The way to peace does not lie through war but through the transformation of structures of injustice and of the politics of exclusion, and that is the cause to which the West should be devoting its technological, diplomatic and economic resources.’" The Declaration was presented on the anniversary of the first use of nuclear weapons at Hiroshima in 1945. The organisers believe there is a strong link between the two. Forty-three years on the British government still holds and threatens to use its nuclear weapons. Dr Tina Beattie, a member of the delegation presenting the Declaration, said, "When our elected leaders are considering fighting a war in our name, funded by our taxes, there is no morally neutral position. Christians have a responsibility to affirm certain fundamental principles of justice, and for those who consider that a military attack on Iraq would violate those principles, then there is a duty to speak out publicly. The response to this declaration suggests that many welcome an opportunity to do so, adding our voices to the growing number expressing disquiet in military and political circles as George W. Bush and Tony Blair prepare for a war that could further destabilise one of the world's most volatile and violent regions, with devastating consequences for all the people of the Middle East." * Includes: Rt Rev Michael Hare Duke, Bishop of Beverley, Bishop of Chichester (Anglican), Bishop of Galloway, Bishop of Northampton (Roman Catholic), Gerard Hughes SJ, Kathy Galloway, Leader, Iona Community, Wilfred McGreal O.Carm, Prior of Aylesford Priory Kent; Provincial leaders of the following religious orders: Daughters of Wisdom, Passionists, Carmelites, Comboni Sisters, Xaverian Missionary Society, Srs of St Joseph of Peace, Religious of the Assumption; Churches Together in Loughborough, Kings Lynn, Stockport, Highgate, Falnmouth, Wales, Manchester; General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church of Wales; The Iona Community Meeting in Plenary; Academics from Universities in Oxford, Birmingham, Lancaster, Cambridge, Edinburgh, Zambia; Religious communities in Kenya, Zambia, South Africa, Italy and concerned individuals from Australia, USA, Canada, Japan, India, Switzerland and Italy. Article Index
When did it become progressive to kill babies?
Actually, around about 1917.
God gave Christians a commission to care for the poor - and these folks are hell bent on outsourcing that obligation to government.
I can see why. Gives them more time to talk about important subjects like studying human sexuality and spinning ecumenical daydreams with elites from other denominations.
Liberal churches that interpret the bible to allow abortion, homosexual marriage, and anything else they want.
What is the "Progressive Faith Community?" Is that sort of like "The Church of Karl Marx?"
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