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"The Roots of Islamic Terrorism" isn't your average simplified article on global terrorism; but at the same time I would also like to suggest that what you have just read is but the tip of the iceberg. I don't necessarily agree with every point in the article (For instance, I don't believe the Saudis have a policy of fostering anti-Americanism. However, I do believe they placate certain elements that seek to undermine the Saudi Royals with money, some of which has been used against the US and Israel). But Americans need to wake up to the fact that the War on Terror is very complex and multi-faceted. In a recent interview for Newsmax, Y. Bodansky stated (much to the chagrin of some) that the US and its allies are currently loosing the War on Terror because we failed to grasp the bigger picture:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1236480/posts

--Also Interesting--

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1234720/posts

That's not to say we've been routed by any means. We still have time to make the proper adjustments and regain the initiative. But this will never happen if both our public officials and the American people hold on to the simple-minded view that our enemies are the same as our stereotype of the "Arab street." On the contrary, we are up against some of the most sophisticated terrorists in human history. Morever, the terrorists enjoy state support from rogue regimes spanning the globe (including Marxist regimes right in our own backyard...that is, Latin America). Hopefully this article will provoke us to begin the process of getting our collective brains around the complexities of global terrorism. Our enemies are weak, but (unfortunately) our ignorance is still quite strong.

1 posted on 10/06/2004 5:13:06 PM PDT by FearGodNotMen
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2 posted on 10/06/2004 5:17:30 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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PS I look forward to your comments, but please do the thread a favor and read the article first. Thanks.


3 posted on 10/06/2004 5:22:14 PM PDT by FearGodNotMen
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4 posted on 10/06/2004 5:24:54 PM PDT by TwoWolves (The only kind of control the liberals don't want is self control.)
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6 posted on 10/06/2004 5:32:25 PM PDT by pop-aye (For every journey, there is a higher path.)
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The most heinous and barbaric crime in this world would be to stop an individual from thinking freely. And when such a crime is "legalized" in the form of a "religion," one can easily imagine how disastrous it can be.

Islam is such a "religion" !!!

Islam imposes a threat to the whole world . . . which is far worse than deforestation, nuclear destruction or AIDS. It is an insidious, devilish disease creeping into the veins of the world. Every individual must realize the destructive and evil nature of this religion, for it eats away at the very foundation of humanity, which is:

an individual's ability to think individually and act accordingly !!!

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8 posted on 10/06/2004 5:38:09 PM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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I read as much as I could but I keep coming back to the essence of Islam. Islam is the monkey see, monkey do religion. It's built around Muhammad's "examples". When you understand this you understand Islam and Islam's terrorism.

The faithful Muslim is commanded to copy Muhammad's life. This is the most important fact in Islam. They view Muhammad as the most perfect man who ever lived, whose "exemplary" life must be emulated. The nice and moderate Muslims ignore, deny, minimize the latter part of Muhammad's life in Medina where he preached Jihad and was a murderous warlord bent on Islam's expansion. Conversion by the sword. The Jihadist Muslims are intent on copying this murderous part of Muhammad's life which has inspired many Koran verses. The later Medina verses (violent) are theologically superior to any Meccan verses (peaceful) when there is a contradiction.

The nice and moderate Muslims just want to think about the Meccan verses in the Koran which preach high ideals. From when Muhammad lived in Mecca and only got 100 followers in 13 years of preaching. Muhammad turned to Medina, turned to Jihad, got more followers, engaged in bloody conquest with 20% of all booty going to him. And the rest is history and misery.





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11 posted on 10/06/2004 5:51:59 PM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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I think it's true that progressive socialism is one of the root sources of terror. The anarchistic bomb throwers of the late nineteenth century came from those "revolutionary" sources.

I agree, too, that the Muslim Brotherhood and similar movements, many of which started among intellectuals in Egypt, were partly to blame.

But terror as such is not a modern invention. Genghis Kahn employed it. Nero and Caligula employed it. The purges begun by the Triumvirs in Rome employed it. Many tyrants have employed it. Random violence that puts the fear of God (as the saying goes) into everyone and stuns them into keeping low profiles is an ancient political weapon.

Unlike either Christianity or Judaism, Islam seems to have a natural affinity with arbitrary power and violence. Judaism and Christianity have, at times, been corrupted and have cooperated with tyranny, but not very often and not easily. Both Judaism and Christianity have built into them a longing for justice and a sympathy for the weak, for widows and orphans, that work against using these religions for tyrannical purposes.

Not so Islam, IMHO. Jesus was a very, very different kind of religious leader from Muhammed. Muhammed was a terrorist, who didn't hesitate to murder and enslave his enemies, slaughter whole towns, and kill or enslave children. That still goes on today.

In other words, Muslims in the Arab world found it only too easy to admire the Nazis and the Communists and to import methods that were congenial to their worldview from the beginning.


13 posted on 10/06/2004 6:22:49 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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14 posted on 10/06/2004 6:53:12 PM PDT by RaceBannon (KERRY FLED . . . WHILE GOOD MEN BLED!!)
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Today's terrorism is soviet inspired and probably still "former" soviet run.


15 posted on 10/06/2004 7:02:59 PM PDT by JudgemAll
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I would hope that at some time (hopefully during our lifetime) we take the time to identify and label each sick act of terrorism with a full and proper name to help us keep track of which insane group is claiming their glory. I think a proper term for all acts of terrorism performed by Muslims should be therefore called "Muslim terrorist acts". If they are performed by Catholics, then "Catholic terrorist acts". If they are done by Southern Baptist.... you get the idea.

Such groups tend to have ways of correcting wayward members or take such actions as needed to make clear distinctions between what the "terrorist" believes and what in fact the core organization believes and practices.

IF 9 out of 9 terrorists in the news today were muslims, and 20 terrorist acts were committed by those same terrorists then they should be reported as "Muslim terrorist acts". If they were not, then let a Muslim set the record straight! Waiting.....waiting.......waiting.........

21 posted on 10/06/2004 8:58:50 PM PDT by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves..........)
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Nice boilerplate.

Islam has been pure terrorism for almost 1300 years; roots of islamic terror??? - Easy: Islam.

The 'big picture?' - Every knee shall bow to the Lord Jesus Christ - every tongue shall confess!!

Is there any other 'picture?'

22 posted on 10/06/2004 9:00:04 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (There are thousands of men of higher moral character than Hanoi John Kerry waiting on Death Row)
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Hey, GIJoel, how're they hanging?


23 posted on 10/06/2004 9:02:42 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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Ya-Da Ya-Da Ya-Da, all you need to know is if they are brown they are down ,if they are Muslims then they want you and your grandchildren dead, not just radical muslims all of the b*st*rds and B*tch*s want America and Israel dead thats D-E-A-D not just kinda dead but really D-E-A-D! So it really doesnt matter that the stinking French, Germans,Russians and last but not least Chi-Coms are supporting them (muslims that is) we'll have to kill them after we've killed all their little surrogates, so the information matters little because we will have to kill them
before they kill us!


27 posted on 10/06/2004 9:30:35 PM PDT by claptrap
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31 posted on 10/07/2004 12:31:43 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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Good article, but I would like to see more discussion of the underlying fundamental question: CAN Islam ever be reformed enough to coexist within a civilized world?

It may well be that Islam contains within itself the seeds of terrorism/barbarism, and those seeds will grow whenever they are watered.


32 posted on 10/07/2004 7:25:44 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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The Eurasian Politician is a truly valuable and unique source. The Finns have had a very instructive national and geopolitical history and we have much to learn from them.


33 posted on 10/07/2004 7:57:08 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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There are several facts missing: Baathists in Iraq, Saddam's two predicessors and Saddam himself were put in place by the CIA. They replaced the Communists who replaced the king. They also exterminated a large chunk of those who supported the communists in Iraq.

When Soviet troops invaded Afghanistan later the same year, there was only one spontaneous demonstration in Tehran, after which Iran has tamely followed Russia’s actions against neighbouring Muslim people.

Iran's stance had more to do with the fact that Pakistan, it's enemy and surpressor of Shietes, removed the Afghan king in 1973, put in place his cousin and made Afghanistan it's satellite, also surpressing the Shietes there.

36 posted on 10/07/2004 9:12:43 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: FearGodNotMen; MarMema; A. Pole; ninenot
The party fought an international Masonic (!) conspiracy to spread the American model of civilization, until its leadership was arrested in 1996, and accused of spying for Iran. (Igor Rotar: Islamic Fundamentalism in Azerbaijan - Myth or Reality? Prism 8/2000) Soviet sponsorship for Islamism has been exposed by a Chechen nationalist leader, Ahmad Zakayev, in a revealing booklet on "Wahhabism - Kremlin’s drugs against national liberation organizations". (Dziennik Polski 30.9.2001) Finnish Polish researcher Zofia Grodzinska-Klemetti, who visited Chechnya during and between the war years, has also stressed how both Russian and Saudi intelligence were regarded by Chechens as parallel forces undermining the peace and liberty of Chechen society.

And at this point we go verring off into the deep end. The really deeeeeep end.

37 posted on 10/07/2004 9:40:41 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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Yessir Ispigfat circa 1950s PLO IslamoCommunist BTTT


41 posted on 10/07/2004 9:46:12 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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Islam and socialist, an old thread, but a good one.


50 posted on 01/23/2005 8:56:15 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (The enemy within, will be found in the "Communist Manifesto 1963", you are living it today.)
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