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The New Ford Mustang: Can the Pony Ride Again?
Forbes Magazine ^ | 10.18.04 Issue | Jerry Flint

Posted on 10/05/2004 9:41:38 AM PDT by yankeedame

Can the Pony Ride Again?

Jerry Flint,
10.18.04, 12:00 AM ET

Remember 1965? We had Vietnam and watts, free love, Vatican II, the Beatles, Joan Baez. And we had the Mustang. Back then cars were really important, and the Ford 1965 Mustang, introduced at the New York World's Fair in April 1964, created a wave of car excitement in America never seen before or since. The Mustang and its evangelist, Lee Iacocca, were on the covers of Time and Newsweek the same week.

Mustang made Iacocca the most famous executive in America. Later he was president of Ford and then savior of Chrysler, but above all, he was the Mustang man.

Mustang had a personality. It wasn't "longer, lower, wider," the Detroit mantra back then. It had no tail fins. It was no Grand Prix racer, and it couldn't carry six bags of fertilizer for the new lawn.

Iacocca had discovered a great secret. We wanted our cars to be fun. They didn't have to be perfect. They just had to be fun, and the Mustang brought fun back to the American street.

Ford sold 542,000 through the end of 1965. Only the big pickups sell more today. Other pony cars came and went: Chevy's Camaro and Pontiac Firebird, the Plymouth Barracuda and American Motors' Javelin, but nothing--from Detroit or Japan or Germany--ever caught Mustang.

Eventually Ford mucked it up. There were fat Mustangs and even ugly Mustangs. Once Ford executives tried to kill the pony, and an honest-to-God citizens' revolt forced them to keep it.

Now here comes a new Mustang, available mid-October. I was told that on the first day design chief J Mays gathered his staff, someone suggested a research effort to find out what to build. And Mays said something like, "No studies. If we don't know what a Mustang is, we should be working someplace else."

The new Mustang looks like a Mustang. It's got two terrific new engines, a six-cylinder with 210 horsepower and a V-8 with 300, and they both go like stink. The interior is lots better than the old one.

Problems? Well, I think the interior and the dash should have used more color, and the instruments are really hard to see in bright sunlight.

But the real threat to Mustang's future success is the conflict between the buyers and the builders. The Mustang is a "girl's car." Most Mustangs had six cylinders, and many buyers have been women. Why? Because it was a good-looking car for not much money, and young women had good taste and not much money. But the boys who built it wanted it hot, with bigger V-8s and more speed. They called the car the Boss, the Cobra, the Mach 1. More weight and cost chased away the customers who bought the car.

Could it happen again? Absolutely. The designers can't wait to turn up the power.

At least Iacocca knew he needed a low price--$2,368 was the base. The new 2005 Mustang starts at $19,410 for the V-6 coupe at 210hp (the '65 had 101). The V-8, with 300hp, starts at $25,000, and you can run it up to $30,000 with extras. These are reasonable base prices, too, but Ford has to be careful it doesn't fill the dealers' lots with option-laden models that cost too much and turn off potential customers. (That's what Chrysler did initially with its Pacifica.)

So how many will Ford sell? Not as many as in 1965, but more than the 140,000 sold last year. They are built in a factory just outside Dearborn, Mich. that also makes Mazdas. So figure 150,000 Mustangs can be built on two shifts with no overtime. Ford could probably sell 200,000 if it can build them.

The beginning paragraph of that Time magazine cover story 40 years ago told of Iacocca rolling through suburban Detroit in an unmarked preproduction model. But people knew what it was. The driver of a Volkswagen gave it the V-for-victory sign. The driver of a Chevy Impala pulled up and mouthed through closed windows, "Is that it?" The white car approached a school bus, the windows flew up, and the children inside chanted "Mustang! Mustang! Mustang!"

Well, this isn't 1964, and we don't get that excited about cars anymore. But this new one is a Mustang for sure, and it might just be the car that makes driving fun again. One more thing: This pony isn't German or Japanese. It's pure Detroit.

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Jerry Flint, a former Forbes Senior Editor, has covered the automobile industry since 1958. Visit his homepage at www.forbes.com/flint.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: autos; autoshop; cars; ford; mustang
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To: chris1
"The Mustang GT is so bad in the snow! Its useless and dangerous"

I hear you there. I bought a Dodge Ram 4x4 for my winter driving needs for that reason exactly.

161 posted on 10/05/2004 12:30:33 PM PDT by Even Keel
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To: tacticalogic
Lotsa GTO's ended up in Boneyards...Lotsa Boneheads driving them, I suppose. Got mine off of a drug dealer. Didn't know that at the time, though. Got pulled over a few times and had the officer thinking I was the former owner. Even found a few hidden compartments. Guy had welded a small box under the floorpan beneath the driver's seat. Had a sliding door there. I'm lucky he didn't leave anything behind (at least I never FOUND anything). Guy I sold it to - a Jackass - drove it through a house after having it a week.

Another one of those cars I should NEVER have sold.

Did see a new Holden Monaro/GTO a few weeks ago. A travesty...overpriced and ZERO appeal.

162 posted on 10/05/2004 12:35:32 PM PDT by Range Rover (Kerry is a Fraud)
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To: Range Rover

I quit counting how many times I got stopped driving that old T-Bird (16-17 year old kid driving around in a classic Thunderbird with dealer plates, go figure).


164 posted on 10/05/2004 12:38:54 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Range Rover

You'd think GM would've spent a little more time and attention on the new GTO. A two-seater, lower priced version of a Corvette, perhaps.


165 posted on 10/05/2004 12:40:26 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: yankeedame
It sure is better than what they produced in 1976


166 posted on 10/05/2004 12:42:51 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: reagandemo
...and that '68 was a pretty light car. I'm not surprised the front end wasn't beefy enough. Odd thing, though....I was helping push a '68 in a garage yard once and thought it was pretty light. We had to push a '69 Cougar next and it felt like we were trying to move an elephant.

Someone I know shoehorned a 429 out of a T-Bird into a '68. I never saw it run but I can imagine the work that must have been involved. Should have gone like a rocket too. I drove a '69 T-Bird with that motor and it went like stink.

167 posted on 10/05/2004 12:44:04 PM PDT by Range Rover (Kerry is a Fraud)
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To: whatever___whatever

That's alright. I don't mind hearing people say that they like their Mustangs. It's job security for me!


168 posted on 10/05/2004 12:45:43 PM PDT by brazos.357
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To: tacticalogic

Used to drive around in a friend's chopped Hudson Hornet...Big old bomb in flat black. Nicknamed it "The Cop Magnet". He Really wanted it known as "The Tank" but it just didn't stick. Only "bad" girls would ride in that thing.


169 posted on 10/05/2004 12:48:28 PM PDT by Range Rover (Kerry is a Fraud)
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To: SpottedBeaver

Sure do.


170 posted on 10/05/2004 12:51:42 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (John F'n Kerry: The Ultimate Risky Scheme.)
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To: MineralMan

I think they should have done more with the hood. It seems real plain.


171 posted on 10/05/2004 12:55:47 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (W-innesota)
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To: yankeedame

I cannot wait for this vehicle to arrive in showrooms. 300 hp for 25K and the ability to soup it up with readily available aftermarket parts. This will be my mid-life crisis car. There are awesome pics at www.stangnet.com


172 posted on 10/05/2004 12:57:25 PM PDT by CAfraudPI
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To: yankeedame

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1999 Ford MUSTANG (See Photo)

http://www.lzxray.com/Ronnie3.jpg






2001 Ford MUSTANG (See 2nd Photo)

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm

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173 posted on 10/05/2004 1:00:02 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: yankeedame
I'll take this car with its horse over a Ford pony any day:

Ferrari 360 Modena

JP

174 posted on 10/05/2004 1:06:10 PM PDT by EscapedDutch (Loquendi Libertatem Custodiamus)
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To: Range Rover
Yes oh the memories! I loved the turning signals in the louvers on the hood still think that they were real cool. I still regret the day that I sold that car. Would really liked to have restored it to show room condition. I restored 2 model A fords while in high school would have been no problem. Heck one of my brother in laws is finishing a 71 302 boss right now. Envy is written all over me.
175 posted on 10/05/2004 1:07:04 PM PDT by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: EscapedDutch

You mean you will take the car over 10 Mustangs and day???


176 posted on 10/05/2004 1:09:05 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: EscapedDutch

if you can afford such a car sure.

but most of us probably cant afford a Ferrari probably can afford a Mustang.

That was one of the biggest selling points of the pony car in the first place. It was and still is the common mans chance to drive a performance machine and not break the bank.

now if you were talking a new WRX vs the Mustang I might agree those things are a hell of a bang for the buck.


177 posted on 10/05/2004 1:11:48 PM PDT by Even Keel
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To: ArrogantBustard

That baby is sweet!


178 posted on 10/05/2004 1:13:35 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Even Keel

Well, I can't afford a Ferrari just yet, but that's one of my goals :o) And while I can afford a Ford, I've only had bad experiences with their product in the past, thus I currently favor my Toyota 4Runner.


179 posted on 10/05/2004 1:16:01 PM PDT by EscapedDutch (Loquendi Libertatem Custodiamus)
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To: chris1
You mean you will take the car over 10 Mustangs and day???
Me confused by you. Me blond.
JP
180 posted on 10/05/2004 1:17:06 PM PDT by EscapedDutch (Loquendi Libertatem Custodiamus)
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