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DEM FLASHED 'WRITE' STUFF AT DEBATE (KERRY PULLED OUT A BLACK PEN?)
New York Post ^ | 10/04/04 | GERSH KUNTZMAN

Posted on 10/03/2004 11:56:26 PM PDT by kattracks

October 4, 2004 -- Was John Kerry trying to pull something at the debate last week?

That question was burning up the Internet yesterday after a slo-mo review of the footage showed the Massachusetts senator taking an object out of his right pocket before the first question.

Was it a cheat sheet — as some conservative bloggers claimed — or was it something innocuous?

Either way, it would violate the debate rules agreed to by both campaigns: "No props, notes . . . or other tangible things may be brought into the debate."

Many blogs offered links to the "Pocket-gate" footage. One, INDC Journal, even posted frame-by-frame stills purporting to show Kerry pulling out a notecard and placing it onto the podium.

But the mystery was solved when The Post reviewed a Fox News Channel feed from Thursday's debate: Kerry pulled out . . . a black pen.


(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheat; cheater; firstdebate; kerry; pen
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1 posted on 10/03/2004 11:56:26 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

Bah. Oh well.

How about getting memogate back to the front pages? It died when Kerry Kamp fingerprints appeared all over it.


2 posted on 10/03/2004 11:59:21 PM PDT by Crazieman (Hanoi John Effin Kerry. War Criminal. Traitor. Democrat.)
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To: kattracks

Yeah Im glad this made it to the post at least


3 posted on 10/03/2004 11:59:48 PM PDT by Selkie
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To: kattracks
No way is that a pen! For one thing it was white and square!
4 posted on 10/04/2004 12:00:13 AM PDT by Americanchild
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To: Americanchild
No way is that a pen! For one thing it was white and square!

That's what it looked like to me too. I wonder which video the Post examined.

5 posted on 10/04/2004 12:02:13 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

how do you fold out a black pen into a flat sheet?

Is it one of those french pens??? Keep it in your pocket, folds out into a white, flag like object for quick surrender?


6 posted on 10/04/2004 12:02:30 AM PDT by flashbunny
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The NY Post... come on... let's see that footage they are talking about then... because the footage I have seen, it was definitely not a pen...


7 posted on 10/04/2004 12:02:36 AM PDT by oolatec
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To: kattracks

How can a BLACK PEN look like a WHITE PAPER? More liberal B.S.


9 posted on 10/04/2004 12:04:10 AM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the FR Pajama Blogger Brigade - New Sheriffs in Town!)
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To: flashbunny

I wish fox would show their enhanced overhead video.

Becaase whatever it was looks white, not black upon enhanced imaging.


10 posted on 10/04/2004 12:04:19 AM PDT by Selkie
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To: Americanchild
Give it up, it likely was just the light reflecting off the pen.

The news cams have High Def Feeds that could pick up the dandruff off Kerry's head if they blew it up enough.

The only way this is anything, is if the pen he took out contained notes and then he spread them out on the podium. Otherwise, nothing.
11 posted on 10/04/2004 12:04:26 AM PDT by dila813
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To: kattracks
But the mystery was solved when The Post reviewed a Fox News Channel feed from Thursday's debate: Kerry pulled out . . . an IBM Selectric typewriter.
12 posted on 10/04/2004 12:05:40 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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13 posted on 10/04/2004 12:07:27 AM PDT by FesterUSMC (If you don't have the hammer your going to be the anvil, and I would rather be the hammer!FesterUSMC)
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To: FesterUSMC

No way in HELL that is a "pen".


14 posted on 10/04/2004 12:08:29 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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To: Americanchild
"For one thing it was white and square!"

And solid; not soft like a kleenx - like an index card or cards. . .it is in the FRAME - what are these people looking at!!!

15 posted on 10/04/2004 12:08:43 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: Americanchild

Exactly!


16 posted on 10/04/2004 12:08:56 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: kattracks

I betcha the DNC stole Carl Rove's mind control technology and is now using the RNC's own weapon against them. Those conniving bastards have stolen RNC technology, minaturized it and put it into something so innocuous as a ballpoint pen. How else can we explain the fact that Bush didn't nail Kerry in spite of being given multiple openings? Evil Dems. ;-)

Seriously, my wife is almost complete apolitical and though she thought that Kerry was a better debater, nevertheless she found Bush more believable and in general agreed more with what he was saying. She appreicated Kerry's debating skill, but she appreciated what Bush was saying. What can I say, I married a smart lady! :-)


17 posted on 10/04/2004 12:09:07 AM PDT by Avenger
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

He wasn't alllowed to bring a pen either. Pens were already layed out wiht paper on podium beforehand.

Section 5, pages 4-5 of the binding "Memorandum of Understanding" that was negotiated and agreed upon by both political campaigns states:

"Each candidate must submit to the staff of the Commission prior to the debate all such paper and ***any pens or pencils*** with which a candidate may wish to take notes during the debate, and the staff or commission will place such paper, pens and pencils on the podium..."


18 posted on 10/04/2004 12:10:50 AM PDT by Selkie
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

its not a pen!


19 posted on 10/04/2004 12:11:10 AM PDT by FesterUSMC (If you don't have the hammer your going to be the anvil, and I would rather be the hammer!FesterUSMC)
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To: All

The folks at the Post must be smoking something fierce.


20 posted on 10/04/2004 12:11:23 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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