Posted on 10/01/2004 10:52:23 AM PDT by SmithPatterson
Kerry Was Convincing To The Uninformed By Paul M. Weyrich
I reluctantly agree with overnight polls that suggest that, by a plurality, voters believe that Senator John Kerry won his debate with President Bush Thursday night. Both candidates did well. But Senator Kerry got away with murder and that is why it is frustrating. To believe that Bush won you would need some knowledge about the issue of terrorism and the war in Iraq.
If you knew very little about the issues of the day, Kerry sounded convincing. George Bush created this mess in Iraq, said Kerry, and Kerry has a four-point plan to get us out of it. If only the President had made the Senator's voting record the focus of his rebuttals to Senator Kerry, he could have put Kerry's statement in context. Yes, Bush did say over and over that Kerry has changed his positions, but other than the $87 billion to support the war that Kerry voted against, after having voted to authorize the war, the other flip-flops were not highlighted. Kerry has had at least ten positions on Iraq. If the President had ticked off a few of those contradictions, and linked them to shifting politics in the USA, he might have blown Kerry away.
Kerry began with the assumption that voters watching knew little or nothing about the issues of terrorism and Iraq. Thus, he painted his own picture of what he is about. I wanted to scream when Kerry said he has had only one consistent view of Iraq that has never changed. That clearly is not so. Yet he was not challenged on that assertion.
President Bush began with the assumption that the American people have followed these issues and thus knew what he was talking about when he made assertions about Senator Kerry. I wish we had an informed electorate. If we did, liberals would be blown out of the water.
In addition to Kerrys having a plurality of those who watched the debate, the spin on the day after was predictable. The establishment media hawked the Kerry "victory." Much of talk radio has pushed the idea that Bush did well. We shall see now the power of the establishment media versus the alternative media. If Kerry's campaign really picks up momentum as the result of this debate then we will know that the establishment media has the upper hand. If, on the other hand, the Kerry campaign is not able to significantly capitalize on this "win," then we will know that the alternative media is doing very well indeed.
My own view is that because of this debate the race will tighten. The small but steady lead the President enjoyed through September will evaporate. We historically would expect subsequent debates to be watched by fewer people. This debate may cause more people to tune into the next debate. That is why the President in the next two debates has to be totally on the offensive with a focus on Senator Kerry's ultra-liberal voting record. If he hits the fact that the Senator, according to the non-partisan National Journal, is THE most liberal Senator in the Congress, he just might get the spin going his way. It will be his only chance to regain the lead.
I had suggested that if there were a clear-cut victory by Senator Kerry in this first debate, he would go on to be the next President. There were no body blows in that debate. Kerry's victory was with a plurality, not a clear-cut majority. I said, on the other hand, if the President scored a clear-cut victory, he could put the election away. Clearly that did not happen. I said if the debate were a tie, the race would tighten with Bush's narrow lead virtually evaporating. That is close to what happened Thursday night. Bush was not blown away. If the electorate understood what he was talking about, Bush pretty much held his own. But Kerry managed to be someone other than himself and that someone was rather decisive. That is what will make for a tight race.
Kerry had a tall order. He had to reintroduce himself to the American people. He managed to do that only because the format allowed him to get away with bald-faced lies. He had to look Presidential. Again, it pains me to say this but he looked more Presidential than did the President. The President looked tired, especially in the second half of the debate. In fact, in the last 15 minutes of the debate, I kept looking at the clock. Bush's articulation became less clear. I was worried about the President. We have a President who goes to bed early and who gets up very early and is ready for work. This debate went to a later time than the President is used to. It showed. Probably Kerry's mother made him stand up straight, because he looked authoritative. Bush looked as if he were slouching at times. Kerry had to show a more human side. I am not sure he accomplished that. I understand he practiced smiling and he did smile a lot, albeit inappropriately as Bush was making a serious point. He was careful in how he attacked the President but I don't know that he came across as more human. Jim Lehrer threw the President a curve ball by asking him if there was anything in Senator Kerry's character that should be of concern. Bush correctly identified this as a loaded question and went on to say nice things about Kerry which, coupled with the answer to the question about whether the war has been worth it, showed Bush's human side. I don't think Kerry took a similar opportunity.
I had hoped against hope that the President would have been able to dominate this debate and thus would have increased his margin. My major concern isn't just the Presidential race, but the U.S. Senate races as well. With an extremely close Presidential race (or if Kerry is able to turn this debate into a clear lead), it will affect the Senate and very possibly either President Bush or John Kerry will be looking at a Democratic Senate.
The worst outcome on election night would be a squeaker Bush victory with a Democratic Senate. He would have such a miserable second term he might well wish he didn't win. If Kerry wins and the Senate goes Democrat it will give the President real leverage in doing away with tax cuts. And of course, a President Kerry would then be able to name and get confirmed the worst liberal activists to the federal judiciary.
In summary, Bush is a nice guy. He doesn't have it in him to go for the jugular. He could have hung Kerry's record around his neck. He didn't. His performance didn't hurt him with his base. He was hurt with voters who are not locked in. I know that some people may expect me to claim that Bush was the big winner of the debate. I can't do that. I hope I am wrong but it may be possible we are now looking at a renewed Kerry lead. If I am right on this, it would be hard for the President to regain the lead again, unless there is some event which occurs that would cause the voters to turn to the President. It will be a tough Fall.
Paul M. Weyrich is Chairman and CEO of the Free Congress Foundation
Uninformed= Demoncrats
I suggest Mr. Kerry go play in traffic and count the number of vehicles with ribbon decals that say "Support Our Troops".
Not another "THE SKY IS FALLING" conservative. Sheesh!
I think it is wrong to determine a voting position based on last night's watered down debate format. A 2 minute answer followed by a few second rebuttal does not lend enough time to give a good answer to anything. It gives Kerry enough time to waft on his vision for international policy since the time frame did not allow for specifics to be discussed.
The questions that Mr. Lehrer gave to Kerry and Bush were not very strong. It appeared they were geared to give Kerry an advantage. Next time, President Bush needs to be less kind and get Kerry on his senate record, his lack of experience in international matters. Bush also needs to go after Kerry regarding his promise to get "international" cooperation--who is Kerry talking about? Kerry must be specific so we can all know what he is up to.
Kerry had once supported removing Saddam Hussein from power but now "says it was all a mistake."
They connected the dots in 1998 but Senator Kerry and MSM can't seem to connect the dots in 2004.
Here is an easy to read chart of what the media was saying pre-911 (and after): Connect the Dots...Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.
Lots of facts and quotes about the president-wannabe at the John F. Kerry Timeline.
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This is absolutely correct. I came into to work and one of my co-workers said that Kerry was throwing out more "facts" than Bush. When I pointed out that a statement must be true in order to be a fact he didn't seem to grasp that concept. Because Kerry threw out more lies the uninformed percieve those lies to be facts. Very, Very scary!
Maybe we should have a B.S. list for Mr. Slick. I can recall the following, can anyone add to this list?
- Bush had independently santioned Iran.
- Over 45 countries have more advanced nuclear programs than Iraq (only appies to 3nd world/unstable or enemies).
- Bush did not have U.N approval.
- Bush did not wait and rushed to judgement (Saddam was given over 10 years to comply).
Unfortunately there are a lot of simpletons like your coworker out there who are completely clueless. Its like they have become selected for extinction.
"I hope I am wrong but it may be possible we are now looking at a renewed Kerry lead."
This guy is fos.
Kerry stipulated that the defense of America would be subjected to a "global test" before being implemented, and later said that he would "unilaterally" use force for "humanitarian" reasons in Sudan.
There you have it, for those that paid attention, America would be sacrificed for anyone foreign. But would never be defended unless "global" leaders gave permission.
More Kerry lies: The New York Subway did not shut down during the Republican Convention.
North Korea got nukes with the help of Clinton & Carter.
Since Treblinka was a Nazi Concentration Camp, I don't think he went to KBG offfices there.
I am John Kerry.
I was against the first Iraq war, I am against the second Iraq war, but I voted for it. Now I'm against it but I was for it. I support the UN. I'm against terrorism and against the Iraq war. But I voted for the Iraq war. So, I voted against the first war and supported the second war, wait...
I'm against gay marriage but for gay unions. I support gays but think the San Francisco mayor is wrong. I support gay marriages. No, wait, gay unions.
I'm Catholic. Wait, I'm Jewish. My dad was Jewish. But I was raised Catholic. What am I? I don't want to confuse people.
I am for abortions, but wait, I'm Catholic, and Catholics are pro-life. But I might consider putting pro-life judges in office, but I'm not sure. I do know I voted for a pro-life judge, but I stated that it was a mistake.
I went to Vietnam. But I was against Vietnam. I testified against fellow US troops in Vietnam, threw my medals away and led others to do the same. But I am a war hero. Against the war.
I stated I threw my medals away then I threw my ribbons away. I then revealed that I threw my ribbons away but not my medals, then lately I stated that I threw someone else's medals away and never threw anything of mine away.
I believe Ribbons and medals aren't the same thing. Medals come with ribbons, so now I believe that ribbons and medals are the same thing besides the fact that ribbons are cloth and medals are medal.
I wrote a book that pictured the US flag upside-down on its cover. But now I fly and campaign in a plane with a large flag right-side up on it. But sometimes, we fly upside-down for fun.
Yasser Arafat is a hero and a statesman. The Israelis shouldn't kill Palestinian terrorists, but they should stop terrorism. Yasser Arafat is a terrorist supporter. I support Mideast peace.
I am for the common man, unlike Bush. I am against the rich. But my family is worth 700 million dollars has a jet and many SUVs. I am the common man.
I am against sending jobs overseas. My wife is a Heinz heir. Heinz has most factories offshore. I am against rewarding companies for exporting jobs as long as it is not Heinz.
I own $1 million in Wal-Mart stock. I believe Wal-Mart is evil by driving small business owners out of town. I am a capitalist and I own part of Wal-Mart but I am a good guy for small corporate America.
I own SUVs when I talk to my followers in Detroit, MI. Teresa owns SUVs, I don't, when I talk to tree hugging followers. I have a campaign jet that gets 1/3 mpg, which is great fuel efficiency.
I am against making military service an issue in presidential elections. I defended a draft dodger Clinton and stated that all serve in their own capacity whether they draft dodge or not. Did I mention, I served in Vietnam and am a hero? Are you questioning my patriotism? I served in Vietnam. My opponent didn't. I have three purple hearts! I am a hero. I am qualified to run this country since I served.
I spent christmas of 1968 in Cambodia, being shot at by the drunken South Vietnamese and the Khmer Rouge, while president Nixon was lying to the country and saying that there were no troops in Cambodia. What's that you say, Nixon wasn't president in 1968, well it must have been some other president then. Who was that president with the a phony silver star, it was probably him.
Are you sure the Khmer Rouge were not active until 1970, well I guess I must not have been there then. That's right I was actually in my basecamp in Vietnam at least 55 miles from the Cambodian border and I spent the evening writing in my journal about being in Cambodia. I got confused after I said it so many times between 1968 and 1986.
I am a real hero though, just spend three minutes with the people who served with me and they will tell you. No, not those 200 plus veterans who served with me and say I lied, and not all those veterans that signed affadavits that say I am a phony, I mean just these 8 people that travel around with me (my band of brothers).
Would the "global test" be subject to the European Union?
Would Kerry subject the US to the United Nations? Who is Kerry representing--americans or the other world powers?
Sounds like the United States loses its sovereignty under Kerry?
bttt!
My co-worker is a very nice guy but this is driving me crazy. When I pointed out a few of Kerry's lies, he told me "All politicians lie." He couldn't point our any of the President's lies but that didn't seem to matter.
I also want to point out that Saddam Hussein may have found a really good defense lawyer--in John Kerry! Mr. Kerry claims that Hussein was not worth the invasion and removal-there were other countries that were a more considerable threat--thanks--why doesn't Kerry just side with the terrorists?
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