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To: dawn53

It seems to me that Kerry "won" this debate, but ultimately he has thrown open several cans of worms for himself with his position on N. Korea, Iran, and that "Global Test" garbage. In the end, I suspect the GOP will take those worms and throw them back in his face...


5 posted on 10/01/2004 4:03:24 AM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: Paradox
It seems to me that Kerry "won" this debate

Nah... he didn't win... Bush was just... just bad.

They ain't debates... they're question & answer sessions judged by style and delivery.

Bush flunked the latter badly... and he got a 'C' on the questions & answers. In short, he came close to 'stinkin' out the house'.

12 posted on 10/01/2004 4:17:50 AM PDT by johnny7 (“You talkin' bout' the Queen again Bob? ON INDEPENDENCE DAY?!!” -'Little Bill'(The Unforgiven))
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To: Paradox

From Drudge:

Unbeknownst to Kerry adviser Mike McCurry, a C-SPAN camera quietly followed McCurry as he found Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart on Spin Alley floor and asked him his impression of the debate. Lockhart candidly said to McCurry , “The consensus is it was a draw.”


13 posted on 10/01/2004 4:18:23 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Troll-Patrol! You've been warned.)
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To: Paradox
How can you say he won? He didn't clarify anything. He just spewed the same old anti-American flip-flopping crap. "I have a plan", "I have a plan" well damned if anybody knows what it is - including you Mr. Kerry.

Kerry gaining anything last night is just a liberal fantasy.

15 posted on 10/01/2004 4:18:39 AM PDT by Musket
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To: Paradox

As stated in another Post I too didnt think President Bush performed well , but Kerry made some of the damndest statements I have ever heard and Mr. Bush let him get away with them. I almost spit coke on my screen when Kerry said he was steadfast.


20 posted on 10/01/2004 4:24:22 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: Paradox

Kerry's statement that he would send nuclear fuel to the mullahs in Iran was mindboggling.


45 posted on 10/01/2004 4:46:21 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Paradox

I agree with the can of worms analysis. Kerry, in his pedantic and patrician manner, called for sanctions against Iran. Bush, sounding incredulous, pointed out to JFinK that we already have sanctions against Iran. Perhaps, if Kerry had shown up for a few of the Intelligence Committee meetings or even the Senate as a whole, he would have known that.


67 posted on 10/01/2004 5:48:28 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: Paradox
Yes, Kerry won the debate. Bush sounded defensive and whiny and frowned a lot. Leaders of the free world should not whine because unprincipled liberals say mean things about them. Bush blew it big time on manner and projected character. These are performances people. Bush probably lost 5 points and this is now going to be a tight race, close to the margin of Dem stealing ability - when he was winning going away before last night.
92 posted on 10/01/2004 7:52:49 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: Paradox
It seems to me that Kerry "won" this debate, but ultimately he has thrown open several cans of worms for himself with his position on N. Korea, Iran, and that "Global Test" garbage.

Bush was so bad that after the first 5 minutes, I could barely bring myself to watch anymore. However, like most things in life, a new day brings fresh perspective.

Kerry will go down in history as 'winning the debate'; people will remember him as polished, effective public speaker. Unfortunately for Kerry, confidence got the better of him and he opened himself up to attack on some very critical issues.

For whatever reason(s), Bush did not effectively confront them during the debate. However, with 5 weeks to go, we can be assured that we'll keep hearing about Kerry's comments until election day.

102 posted on 10/01/2004 8:44:35 AM PDT by lemura
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To: Paradox
It seems to me that Kerry "won" this debate, but ultimately he has thrown open several cans of worms for himself with his position on N. Korea, Iran, and that "Global Test" garbage.


109 posted on 10/01/2004 10:47:12 AM PDT by Polybius
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