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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; debates; electionpresident; firstdebate; globalpoints; kerry
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To: Emzloh

ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND THE

MAD TV SPOOF OF THE DEBATE? (VIDEO) ?????


1,741 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:19 PM PDT by AmericanR76
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To: AmericaUnited
Fair weather, gutless, jump on the winning bandwagon but run like a scaled dog at the first sign of trouble.

Who the hell said anything about running. You dont have any clue to who or what I am nor my background.

I am objectively stating what I see and hear and expressing my thoughts and feeling to what I see. If it is ok with you.

1,742 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:20 PM PDT by Aquakat
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To: rwfromkansas
I think W is just plain aggravated with this whole thing and it showed with the "of I know OBL attacked us." It's like getting kicked by a 4 year-old. You ignore it at first, but after a while you have to respond in some way, and you're pretty annoyed doing it.
1,743 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:23 PM PDT by Dahoser (!Hillary)
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To: proud American in Canada

I will not change my core values because of politics and pressure. Bush just won the election on that line.


1,744 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:26 PM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: SunnySide
Quite obviously, you don't know me.

But what am I to expect from someone who first claimed everbody criticizing Bush were 'Rat trolls and parasites, and now he lacks the integrity and fortitude to admit his error when he is proven wrong? Choosing instead an ad_hominem attack on me.

No wonder you think Bush is winning this debate.

1,745 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:37 PM PDT by fideist
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To: ejdrapes

This was all expected.


GWB is doing fine.

He may be doping a rope a doper...


1,746 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:38 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: OXENinFLA

Kerry ... Being certain can get you into trouble????


1,747 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:38 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: overeasy

Hey Overeasy........is that what kerry says when he screws you & yours?
Over Easy!


1,748 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:41 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Truth is not Partisan)
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To: Jorge
Most of Kerry's lies are obvious and those that are not will be picked apart by the talking heads after the debate.

What talking heads? Oh, like MSNABCCBSNBCCNN? Don't count on it.

1,749 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:43 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: LSUsoph

I see W as the Winner.. He just knocked Kerry out of the park. W is stable... he does not flip-flop. He puts American first!


1,750 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:45 PM PDT by JFC (Go Jammies Go Jammies....)
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To: BonnieJ

Republicans are honest realists. We don't turn on the fake spin, like the Dems do. Our guys fool around, and we admit it and kick em out of office.


1,751 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:48 PM PDT by tuckrdout (Grant Teri Schindler (Schiavo) her wishes: Divorce and LIFE!)
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To: schouston

Nice of you to drop by for only TWO WEEKS. Back to DU with you!


1,752 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:49 PM PDT by LS
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To: Admin Moderator

My summary thus far:

GWB is not a slick speaker, never has been and is not coming across as such tonight. He is, however, more believable tonight IMHO. I think people will pick up on the fact that whenever Lehrer asks Lurch for specifics, he never gets them. He gets vague, abstract concepts, then a series of attacks on Bush, instead of answers about WHAT Lurch will do.

I do think Bush is missing many opportunities to really hammer Lurch, though. He finally touched on it briefly, but he needs to make a forceful and emphatic point that we make decisions based on what's best for US, not what's popular with the rest of the world, not what the joke known as the UN thinks. He should hammer him with something along the lines of, "I'm way more concerned about people in New York sleeping safely than what some politician in Paris thinks we should do."

Bush has also way overdone the "wrong place wrong time" thing IMO, when he should've been beating Lurch over the head with his documented waffles more.

If I were scoring it right now, I'd probably give Bush a 55-45 edge.

MM


1,753 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:49 PM PDT by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: overeasy

YOU sure you are in the right site? This is a conservative place......and your posts dont' look conservative at all.


1,754 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:50 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Owen

I've noticed that too, Owen.

There are a few regular Freepers who are down on the Prez.

But I am seeing a lot of temporary Newbies.


1,755 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:51 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: USA_Soccer
Bush looks like he wasn't prepeared well enough. He should be going after Kerry when he lies.

Each of Kerry's lies is a meme that's been sown in the media for a long time. the "Genius" Karl Rove apparently told Bush to skip the details, "stay the course", and invoke "war on terrorism."

1,756 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:52 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: motif121

Lehrer set up W with a chance to rip into Kerry's character. It threw W off, because that is such a "loaded question." It took him a while to find an acceptable response.


1,757 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:52 PM PDT by Morose Musician
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To: TomGuy

Can you tell me where you're getting that feed? It looks interesting.


1,758 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:54 PM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: All

FR is overloaded and it is taking me to long to get to the next dang page, and when I want to post it takes me a minute or so to post. To many on here tonight, LOL!!! So, I guess I will just read and try and keep up.

By they way, I think Bush is doing just fine tonight and this won't hurt the polls. Just my opinion


1,759 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:56 PM PDT by Halls
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To: All
sKerry's right...it is absolutely none of his business to criticize Bush's character! He has wilted, and he will continue to do so!
1,760 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:58 PM PDT by conservativo
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