Posted on 09/29/2004 2:34:53 PM PDT by truthandlife
LOL, you sound like one of those TBN preachers!
I always hear that and I don't know why. I wish I would have grown up in a Christian household and never had to taste the dark pleasures of sin. You just don't walk away from a sinful lifestyle without scars.
I'm so sorry you read Marrs... and believed him.
All beliefs are not created equally.
I praise God in grateful tears, for ever strong, outspoken, Godly man that has ministered to our somewhat blind hearts! If it weren't for men like Texe allowing God to glorify Himself thru them,
All other "beliefs, or religions" don't quite cut the cake!
msnbc should read.... THE FAITH OF GEORGE W. BUSH , by STEPHEN MANSFIELD. It has about 4 or 5 different times when President Bush came to talk about HIS REALATIONSHIP WITH HIS LORD AND SAVIOR.
Leave it to MSM to question someone's faith? They are beyond even lurking on their website or their t.v. stations.
Jag
When the day of Judgement comes..........
WE Who belive... will see George W. Bush. We will also see the missing ones, but let God Judge them, when He will turn His back on them and say He does not know them. That day might be sooner than they realize.
Thatls so true
MSM might want to check out this letter:
Bruce Vincent receives Presidential Award
May 26th, 2004
Two items are recounted:
1] He and the First Lady were asked about the impact of the Presidency on their marriage and, with an arm casually wrapped around Laura, he said that he thought the place may be hard on weak marriages but that it had the ability to make strong marriages even stronger and that he was blessed with a strong one.
2] He noted that it would be a mistake to come to the Oval Office and entertain a mission to 'find yourself.' He said that with all of the pressures and responsibilities that go with the job, you'd best know who you are when you put your nameplate on the desk in the Oval Office. He said he knows who he is and now America has had four years to learn about who he is.
When we departed the I said to him, "Mr. President, I know you to be a man of strong faith and have a favor to ask you." As he shook my hand he looked me in the eye and said, "Just name it."
I told him that my step-Mom was at that moment in a hospital in Kalispell, Montana, having a tumor removed from her skull and it would mean a great deal to me if he would consider adding her to his prayers that day. He grabbed me by the arm and took me back toward his desk as he said, "So that's it. I could tell that something is weighing heavy on your heart today. I could see it in your eyes. This explains it." From the top drawer of his desk he retrieved a pen and a note card with his seal on it and asked, "How do you spell her name?" He then jotted a note to her while discussing the importance of family and the strength of prayer.
When he handed me the card, he asked about the surgery and the prognosis. I told him we were hoping that it is not a recurrence of an earlier cancer and that if it is they can get it all with this surgery. He said, "If it's okay with you, we'll take care of the prayer right now. Would you pray with me?" I told him yes and he turned to the staff that remained in the office and hand motioned the folks to step back or leave. He said, "Bruce and I would like some private time for a prayer." As they left he turned back to me and took my hands in his. I was prepared to do a traditional prayer stance - standing with each other with heads bowed. Instead, he reached for my head with his right hand and pulling gently forward, he placed my head on his shoulder. With his left arm on my mid back, he pulled me to him in a prayerful embrace. He started to pray softly. I started to cry. He continued his prayer for Loretta and for God's perfect will to be done. I cried some more. My body shook a bit as I cried and he just held tighter. He closed by asking God's blessing on Loretta and the family during the coming months. I stepped away from our embrace, wiped my eyes, swiped at the tears I'd left on his shoulder, and looked into the eyes of our President. I thanked him as best I could and told him that me and my family would continue praying for he and his. As I write this account down and reflect upon what it means, I have to tell you that all I really know is that his simple act left me humbled and believing. I so hoped that the man I thought him to be was the man that he is. I know that our nation needs a man such as this in the Oval Office. George W. Bush is the real deal. I've read Internet stories about the President praying with troops in hospitals and other such uplifting accounts. Each time I read them I hope them to be true and not an Internet perpetuated myth. This one, I know to be true. I was there. He is real. He has a pile of incredible stuff on his plate each day - and yet he is tuned in so well to the here and now that he 'sensed' something heavy on my heart. He took time out of his life to care, to share, and to seek God's blessing for my family in a simple man-to-man, father-to-father, son-to-son, husband-to-husband, Christian-to-Christian prayerful embrace.
He's not what I had hoped he would be. He is, in fact, so very, very much more.
That makes my skin crawl.
Why, exactly?
I know Gods word, I know in the end times, the closer we get the final chapter of Gods will for the people on this earth, there will be many, masked in sheep clothing, that seem like Good People. Yet, many may be pretending. And many may be real.
God isn't going to punish us for being too discerning. I'd rather walk thru fire, and recieve Gods healing waters; than to embrace that fire, and have to ask God to forgive me.
What a curious piece for anyone in the media to write. You mean they really care???
Well, if I had perfect patience, I wouldn't be human. Sometimes... luckily, someone has made it possible to me to be forgiven my trespasses! Whew!
I appreciate your thoughtful answer and I can certainly appreciate being led of the Spirit, getting those little checks when something doesn't seem quite right. Of course you'll also agree that those checks, as well as what caused them, must be weighed against scripture to determine what is a valid reaction and what is fleshly as opposed to Spirit-filled. And while we have no intimate knowledge of a person's heart, we can be discerning of their fruit.
Your statement that "God won't punish us for being too discerning" is true to a point. As long as our discernment doesn't become prideful, as long as we truly listen to the Spirit and follow the guidelines set out for us in scripture, as long as the glory of God is more important than our own satisfaction and knowledge, we're ok.
That said, I have no idea what your sources are and what you've read with regard to the Bush family and why you have come to the conclusions that you have. Quite possibly there are some nasty skeletons in the Bushes' closets. But I have seen nothing, have not been made aware of anything personally that would cause me to doubt President Bush's word when he claims the name of Christ. Could he be faking? Sure. Any of us could. But for him, to what end? There are a dozen reasons why that's a bad idea and hardly politically expedient. The road is narrow after all.
Has he demonstrated fruit that is contrary to his testimony? I don't know - it's not like I know the man personally or interact with him on a daily basis, but from what I have seen from this distant perspective, I can't call him a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Feel free to enlighten me. I'll never be one to shut my eyes against the truth.
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