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Italian Hostages freed due to ransome being paid - Rome Paid Big Ransom to Free Hostages
Reuters ^ | Sept.29 | Luke Baker

Posted on 09/29/2004 9:12:51 AM PDT by Ace

Ransom payments seen fuelling Iraq's hostage crisis

By Luke Baker BAGHDAD, Sept 29 (Reuters) - The release of two Italian aid workers in Iraq has raised hopes other hostages may soon be freed, but reports that a large ransom was paid may only feed the burgeoning hostage crisis.

The two Italians, Simona Pari and Simona Torretta, had been seized along with two Iraqi colleagues from a central Baghdad office in a brazen attack witnesses described as very organised and probably carried out by a criminal gang.

Gustavo Selva, an Italian lawmaker, told French radio a ransom of around $1 million had been handed over.

"In principle, we shouldn't give in to blackmail but this time we had to. Although it's a dangerous path to take because, obviously, it could encourage others to take hostages, either for political reasons or for criminal reasons," Selva told RTL.

"The sum ($1 million) is probably correct," he added.

Over the past year or more, hundreds of Iraqis -- doctors, surgeons and prominent businessmen -- have been kidnapped by criminal gangs who demand ransoms of up to $100,000.

Now, with so many easily-identifiable foreigners in Iraq, criminals appear to have branched out, targeting more lucrative Westerners and foreign workers as well as locals.

Kadhim estimates that about 90 percent of the kidnappings in Iraq are carried out by criminal gangs, who then trade the captives on to militant Islamic groups and other factions.

"If the criminals don't get their money within 72 hours or so, they sell them up the chain to other groups," said a British security consultant who has been operating in Iraq for a year.

"There's vast amounts of money being paid, whether it's by companies, families or governments. It's a very, very good business," he said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.netscape.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: crime; hostageransome; hostages; increasedterrorism; iraq; italianhostages; italy; napalminthemorning; seehowanitalianbows; wot
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To: Ace

"Ah, Osama, this method of fundraising is so much more lucrative than having a bake sale!"


141 posted on 09/29/2004 4:48:59 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Ace

In WWII they went to the allies and away from the Axis, now they're helping the new Axis.


142 posted on 09/29/2004 4:50:30 PM PDT by gortklattu (check out thotline dot com)
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To: Ace

Great. When do we bomb Italy for financing terrorism?


143 posted on 09/29/2004 5:07:30 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: Ace

Is this not a violation of international law?


144 posted on 09/29/2004 5:11:29 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Kerry lied and good men died, and Moms worried, and heroes were spit on, and children were ostraci..)
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To: Ace

That'll buy a lot of explosives. Italains are as bad as the French. Damn fools.


145 posted on 09/29/2004 5:16:09 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er ({about the news media} "We'll tell you any sh** you want hear" : Howard Beale --> NETWORK)
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To: Ace

How many other people will now die with this blood money?


146 posted on 09/29/2004 5:27:59 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: Alissa

Now the Italians have given an incentive for more kidnappings. They just openned the door to who knows what. Italy denies it of course, but they're guilty and they know it.


147 posted on 09/29/2004 5:37:12 PM PDT by rdl6989 ("Orange is good for the skin." per Mamma-T September, 2004)
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To: TAquinas
Expect these two brainwashed imbecils to soon return to Iraq after preaching of their islamist captors' respect and benevolence and of their conversion to islam.

I suppose you are thinking of the woman who was arrested in Afghanistan, and held by the Taliban, she later converted to Islam.

However, I have another article, (will flag you) about a Shia Muslim cleric held by kidnappers in Iraq, and he did not find them nice, warm or sympathetic at all - possibly because they were his fellow Muslims, but of the Sunni sect. They sounded like cruel people who were after money.

148 posted on 09/29/2004 5:50:33 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: stuartcr

War is not about personal feelings...actions taken or not taken affect multitudes.

The payoff will harm multitudes of others ...and yeah, the two women and their families are happy but for how long and at what price...


149 posted on 09/29/2004 6:13:24 PM PDT by eleni121 (Thank God for John Ashcroft!)
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To: Ace

Millions for tribute, not one cent for defense.


150 posted on 09/29/2004 6:14:16 PM PDT by Imal (Today, Iraqis are enjoying the kind of freedom Americans haven't had in over a century.)
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To: Ace
"In principle, we shouldn't give in to blackmail but this time we had to."

Why?

151 posted on 09/29/2004 6:52:17 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: VadeRetro
"The sum ($1 million) is probably correct," he added."

"That's a lot of terrorist bombs and bullets. The Euro way doesn't save lives."

I doubt that the transfer of this amount of money was handled on a cash basis. Is there any way that our US spooks could stop, confiscate, or intercept an electronic transfer of these funds? Surely the Cult of the Dead Cow could be gainfully employed by the CIA with regard to this matter....

152 posted on 09/29/2004 7:05:20 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: JesseJane
"This Pope, has been a let down in the last 20 years."

What utter ignorant bullshit. Twenty years ago was 1984. Pope John Paul was as instrumental in defeating communism as Ronald Reagan, and Reagan gave him credit as such. The Pope provided the Reagan administration with crucial intelligence with regard to the situation in Poland, the land of his birth, on the situation in Gdansk (Danzig) at the time that Lech Walesa was pushing for the formation of a labor union in a communist satellite in that city. That union was one of the first accomplishments in the destruction of the Soviet empire.

Where in hell would you come up with a hypothesis for your statement?! WTF?

Pope John Paul was one of the top ten men of the 20th century, IMHO. Were it not for him, we may still be facing the prospect of the planned Soviet dominization of the world. Reagan could not have accomplished what he did without the Pope.

That said, I should tell you that I am a Protestant who has problems with the US Catholic Church and their functions in the US.

But Pope John Paul has my admiration.......

153 posted on 09/29/2004 7:31:52 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: yooper

piss off.


154 posted on 09/29/2004 8:46:12 PM PDT by JesseJane ( “fake but accurate” ... it’s like saying a body in a pine box is “dead but lifelike.” -- Lileks)
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To: Ace

hey ....they deal with terrorist / terrorism , their way .........WE DEAL WITH TERRORIST , ..... OUR WAY .......then we'll deal with people , who deal with terrorist .....OUR WAY ....it's gonna be a long .. war , struggle , challange , and task .....BUT , PAYBACK IS GONNA BE A REAL BITCH , in the end .


155 posted on 09/29/2004 10:21:13 PM PDT by saxxa (FIRE-FIGHTER FOR PRESIDENT BUSH)
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To: firebrand

Hey! Don't call them appeasers. They didn't withdraw troops like Spain and the Philippines did, much less oppose the war outright like France and Germany.Italy was a good ally of ours and I can't stand these types of decategorizations. They should never, ever repeat that thing again though.


156 posted on 09/30/2004 3:57:10 AM PDT by Moderate right-winger
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To: LibertarianInExile

It appears that Italians think differently...


157 posted on 09/30/2004 6:14:20 AM PDT by stuartcr (Neither - Nor in '04....Who ya gonna hate in '08)
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To: eleni121

See #157


158 posted on 09/30/2004 6:14:58 AM PDT by stuartcr (Neither - Nor in '04....Who ya gonna hate in '08)
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To: stuartcr

A large number of italians believe in la dolce vita...I remember Italian Communist acquaintances wearing their 18K gold hammer and sickles around their necks over their Armani sweaters sipping Campari...I just hope that they don't have to go through the experiences of the 5th centuries all over again.

Point: caving in doesn't work...is that too hard to understand?


159 posted on 09/30/2004 7:34:09 AM PDT by eleni121 (Thank God for John Ashcroft!)
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To: Alouette

Also Denzel Washington in "Man on Fire", about the kidnapping industry in Mexico........


Great movie just out on DVD and at the top of the DVD charts. A must see y'all!


160 posted on 09/30/2004 7:35:27 AM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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