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1 posted on 09/28/2004 8:25:29 PM PDT by nypokerface
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To: nypokerface

What's the problem?


2 posted on 09/28/2004 8:36:19 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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I don't need someone to "interpret" the Constitution for me, thank you. I can read English.

We need to find a way to contain or remove activist judges who overstep their authority and legislate from the bench.


3 posted on 09/28/2004 8:53:31 PM PDT by TwoWolves (The only kind of control the liberals don't want is self control.)
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To: nypokerface

Would they PLEASE go after Jim Kolbe - RINO, AZ - for his vote against the bill too?


5 posted on 09/28/2004 9:09:23 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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It is surreal to see Republicans using the Pledge.

The creator of the pledge of allegiance was a self-proclaimed National Socialist. The pledge’s original salute was a straight arm salute. It was the origin of the salute of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Francis Bellamy (creator of the pledge) wanted a government takeover of education, and to eliminate all of the better alternatives, in order to create an "industrial army" (a Bellamy term) to socialize the economy, as described in the book "Looking Backward" by Edward Bellamy, cousin and cohort of Francis.

The original single right arm salute was no less worshipful idolatry of socialism and government then if the left arm had been extended also. That is the mentality that led to its adoption by the National Socialist German Workers' Party. The claim that it was an old Roman salute is a myth.

The right hand over the heart is no less crass idolatry of socialism and government then if the left hand were crossed over the right, in another clearer position of prayer.

The legacy of the socialist’s government-takeover of education was racism and segregation imposed by law and taught as official policy in government schools. It was behavior later displayed by the National Socialist German Workers' Party. The racism and segregation in government schools continued even after WWII and into the '60s, even beyond. Bellamy was a bigot.

Edward Bellamy's book was an international bestseller and influenced the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (62 million killed), the People's Republic of China (35 million killed), and the National Socialist German Workers' Party (21 million killed). (Death tolls from the book "Death by Government" by Professor R. J. Rummel).

Bellamy was not an atheist. Far from it. He was theistic and he was a religious wacko. Bellamy was a preacher, and a member of the Society of Christian Socialists, and was expelled from the ministry for giving speeches such as "Jesus the Socialist" (finding a copy of that speech is harder than finding photos of the original Nazi-style salute to the flag, now available in google image searches for “nazi salute”).

Bellamy’s socialist plans were successful in duping most Americans into supporting his socialist schools and even into supporting a daily robotic chant of his government worshiping pledge daily in government schools. Bellamy’s socialist plans were successful in duping most Americans to support the social security scam and socialist slave numbers, even given to infants, to track everyone’s residences, movements, employment, finances for life, stealing the whole way. Bellamy has succeeded in duping even Republican Congressmen into boastfully reciting the socialist's pledge, supporting his government schools, social security and massive spending that out-socialized Clinton’s by triple (in social spending alone). One reason for that is because Bellamy's government-school monopoly taught most Americans and most Congressmen propaganda about the pledge, and cajoled everyone into robotically chanting it daily on cue from a government bell, like Pavlov's lapdogs of the state.

Also, most Americans and most Congressmen have never seen the rare photos of the historic pledge. Government schools never show them. And Congressmen are too intellectually dishonest to show them too.

The separation of school and state is as important as the separation of church and state. The government should not run Sunday school, nor Monday school through Friday school.

On September 27th, the U.S. Supreme Court conferred about a case urging that the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional. The case is Wonschik v. U.S. and I have filed an Amicus Brief in that case.

Wonschik might end the "Pledge Protection Act" before the act starts. It is a race to see which happens first.

A motion to recuse might result in the recusal of the entire U.S. Supreme Court. The motion expands arguments that resulted in the recusal of Justice Scalia. It is the first time in history that a motion to recuse addressed each Justice. The motion to recuse discusses the history of the Pledge and the Court's segregation cases.

Let's restore the pledge to its pre-1892 version.


6 posted on 09/28/2004 11:15:52 PM PDT by rexcurrydotnet (pledge is for socialists and people who love big government)
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