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Study: Living in the Suburbs Can Make You Sick
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| Sep 27, 2004
Posted on 09/27/2004 7:20:38 AM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer
I don't live in the suburbs. I live in the boonies of Atlanta.
It's kinda nice to be able to see the stars at night. I can now understand folks complaining about light pollution.
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:16:04 AM PDT
by
Little Ray
(John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
To: Gabz
It will not surprise me if this study is used in another of their attacks on the fast food industry. I tend to notice more of the chain type places on the highways of suburban/rural areas than in major metro areas.
Absolutely! I wouldn't put it past them.
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:17:00 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
(Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
To: Pyro7480
Ok, let's recap. These guys say no drinking, no smoking, no fatty foods, no living in suburbs. What next!? No sex in the suburbs.
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:20:22 AM PDT
by
Polybius
To: r9etb
The price of houses in our part of town has almost doubled since we bought our house 9 years ago. Sounds like you bought in the right place at the right time.
When we moved last year we went from living in a city of about 40,000 to a county of about 40,000. We are expecting property values to start exploding around here in the next few years because the amount of developable land is shrinking.
For example the 80 acre farm across the road from us is currently for sale because the person that bought it last year didn't do his homework - unless he wants to build a waste and water system, it can not be subdivided as the land will not perk for new wells.
the school system is terrific, the people are very conservative and while I do tend to put more miles on the car to get where I need to go I actually spend less time than when living in the city. All in all, I'm happy.
In the case of my family - this study is BUNK!!!! about the only good thing I can say about it is that it was funded by a government grant.
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:29:04 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
To: RayChuang88
"Roland Sturm obviously has NOT lived in New York City with its high-density population and high-stress living environment."
Some time ago I read that when laboratory rats (that's the rats with small "r") were kept in cages with population density above certain threshold they became psychotic and resorted to cannibalism. Something similar may apply to humans as well. There is only so much stress a living being of any species could take before breaking. And frequency of such breaks is greater in high stress densely populated areas.
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:36:07 AM PDT
by
GSlob
To: Gabz
Just looking at your profile page -- your little cookie monster looks exactly like one of my nieces at that age...
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:38:57 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: Pyro7480
I'm not a big fan of fast-food, primarily because it's cheaper for me to cook at home, but do occassionally "indulge."
Lots of times it's just easier if we are out and about to hit the drive through, rather than going into a sit down place - especially with a 6 year old!!! I'd much rather let her eat a Happy meal in the car and then take her to the park then have her get all antsy waiting for table service.
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:39:20 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
To: r9etb
LOL!!!!
Hopefully your niece only looks (and doesn't act) like mine!!!!
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:40:39 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
To: wtc911; martin_fierro
I'd rather live in the suburbs of the United States than anywhere else on earth.
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Yep. I would rather live in a European city than anywhere on earth. I don't even need a car.
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:41:38 AM PDT
by
Bon mots
To: wtc911; martin_fierro
I like where I live. Close enough to NYC so I can hop on a train and am there in thirty minutes. Then I get to come back to my fish pond and backyard with grass *lol*
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:43:34 AM PDT
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: Bon mots
Paris reminded me of New York City. I'd get a scooter if I lived in Paris. I'd live in Venice because you have to walk EVERYWHERE *lol*
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:45:16 AM PDT
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: Bon mots
London, sure. Barcelona, yeah. Paris, nope.
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:53:22 AM PDT
by
wtc911
(I have half a Snickers...it was given to me by a CIA guy as we went into Cambodia)
To: cyborg
Paris is a nice enough town... even though I'm not a big fan of the French. Last week some jackasses were protesting everything from Maastricht to George Bush in front of the Montparnasse train station. I shouted GEORGE BUSH 2004 with my fist in the air. They looked as if they had just seen Satan himself.
I like walking, especially in interesting cities... even if it's just for the exercise.
Paris is just like the opposite of the US cities. In the US, inner cities are dangerous places, but the suburbs are peaceful bedroom communities. In Paris, the city itself is safe and very nice, but the suburbs are filled with violent Muslims and non-European immigrants.
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:55:50 AM PDT
by
Bon mots
To: traumer
Let's see, what are they really after? "Free" health care for suburbanites, paid for by themselves through taxes, or maybe more money for inner-city "programs", or pour more into schools, or maybe they just want more money for themselves to study it some more - BINGO!
To: Bon mots
I felt more safe in New York City at night than I did in Paris. The hotel manager warned me not to go out on the street after dark which I found strange. It was only 11 but the streets are really dead and I noticed not as well lit as what I'm used to. I live in a suburb now, but I don't care who lives around me just as long as I get left alone.
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posted on
09/27/2004 8:59:51 AM PDT
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: traumer
How to shut up a liberal:
Next time one of these libs cites this study as to why suburbs are bad and should be legislated out of existance with new 'smart growth' laws, ask them if they really want restrict lifestyle choices with laws. They'll come back with the argument that the health care costs from these 'bad lifestyle choices' are a burden on society. Then hang them with their own words by forcing them into a liberal Sophie's Choice, by noting that homosexual males have a life expectancy nearly 2 decades shorter than straight males, AIDS treatment is extremely expensive, so are they saying that for societal good legislation should also be introduced to restrict the gay lifestyle?
To: cyborg
Where were you in Paris? I was walking around all over after dark and there were plenty of people around. I didn't have any problems... but I was right on the left bank the whole time.
New York used to be scary many years ago, but since Rudy fixed it, it's just fine. Again, it will depend on the neighborhood.
I happen to live in a safe city in Europe. Off the beaten path, but safe.
The biggest problems with London and Paris is that they are both overpriced. I just sat in a sidewalk cafe in Montparnasse and ordered a beer... a glass of beer cost me 8.00!!! I remember paying $12.00 for a bottle of Heineken 20 years ago in the penthouse bar in the Sofitel in Paris! The same beer cost me 24 cents in an Amsterdam supermarket!
London is even worse!
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posted on
09/27/2004 9:08:09 AM PDT
by
Bon mots
To: traumer
Another "Bitch-factor" so-called study; they call a bunch of people, ask them a set of silly questions and then pretend that this is somehow medically significant.
Conditions such as hypertension, joint pain and headavches are too often self-diagnosed and largely untreated and reflect more the current attitude of the respondent than any underlying illness or disease.
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posted on
09/27/2004 9:08:44 AM PDT
by
Old Professer
(The Truth always gets lost in the Noise.)
To: Little Ray
I live in the boonies The 'burbs are the worst combination of city and rural. In either urban or rural areas, it's fun to get out and walk/hike, see the sites (city), feel nature (rural), etc.
In the 'burbs, about all you can do (unless there is a city center) is walk the neighborhood. And unless it's pre-50s, the neighborhood is going to be look-alike tract homes.
We used to live right by the beach in a congested part of LA's beach cities; when we had our first kid, we moved down to OC into a larger house. Even though we're now only 1.5 miles from the beach, it took a little adjusting to get out and about.
I swear I gained 10-15 lbs over last 4 years before I figured out how to deal with this new lifestyle (ie driving a car everywhere) and lose the weight.
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posted on
09/27/2004 9:15:34 AM PDT
by
lemura
To: Bon mots
The hotel address was 15 Place Du Havre. I don't think that's where you were. The guys that hang out at night are a bit too aggressive though. You're right about Rudy fixing up the city. I lost weight going to Europe last year. The exchange rate and food prices were awful.
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posted on
09/27/2004 9:15:59 AM PDT
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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