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Catholic Vote Will Decide Election
NewsMax.com ^ | Sept. 1, 2004 | Phil Brennan

Posted on 09/23/2004 5:59:56 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: Coleus
There is no "Catholic vote". There is no "white vote". There is no "Protestant vote".

There is a black vote, which is sad.

But it is what it is.

21 posted on 09/23/2004 7:48:26 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Coleus
blue collar Catholics

White blue collar Catholics have gone the way of the three-toed Sloth in the northeast. Upward mobility (touched upon in this article) killed the culture that certain people like to idealize (I for one am happy that my parents, aunts and uncles chose the white collar path to upward mobility).

Life in the rowhouses was not as great as people like to make it out to be.

22 posted on 09/23/2004 7:49:10 PM PDT by Clemenza (I LOVE Halliburton, SUVs and Assault Weapons. Any Questions?)
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To: LibertarianInExile
It's a joke to even try to say there is such thing as a Catholic voter.

Not really. It's ridiculous, however, to lump non-practing and practicing Catholics together. Practicing Catholics went for Bush in 2000 by almost 60%. Bush is campaining hard to get the other 40% on his side too.

I know people who are active Catholics, but still have an allegiance to the Democratic party. Here in Pennsylvania, many, if not most of them, voted for Rendell for governor, despite his pro-abort stance. But I don't know any sincere, practicing Dem Catholics who aren't bothered by the abortion issue. I think the Bush team is being smart to highlight Kerry's extreme positions on social issues. Tweak their consciences enough and they'll be voting for Bush this time around.

23 posted on 09/23/2004 8:00:03 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: Clemenza
Life in the rowhouses was not as great as people like to make it out to be.

Speak for yourself.

24 posted on 09/23/2004 8:02:02 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: old and tired
Having everyone inquire about your life, having to live in fear of certain people "moving in" to "da nay-bah-hood," having an overall ghetto mindset that you would do no better than your father...

The amazing thing is when I worked with black and hispanic people at my job a few years back, I was amazed at how similar they were to my grandparents in terms of the "mentality."

25 posted on 09/23/2004 8:06:10 PM PDT by Clemenza (I LOVE Halliburton, SUVs and Assault Weapons. Any Questions?)
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To: Coleus

Right, but when you talk about a voting block, you are saying the group votes en masse to the same issues. Catholics do not do this. Catholics vote. There is not, however, a Catholic 'block' vote. Not any more.


26 posted on 09/23/2004 8:10:19 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: diamond6
"This catholic is voting for W."

This one is, too.

27 posted on 09/23/2004 8:11:26 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Sometimes these brain cells have a mind of their own.)
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To: Coleus

This Catholic(albeit not always a good one) is voting for Bush.


28 posted on 09/23/2004 8:14:30 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A gun owner voting for John Kerry is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders. (bye bye .30-30))
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To: Clemenza
I think you're mixing up life in a row with a union mentality. I was raised in a row and in the early years, my wife and I had our first kids in a row. Now we live in a home that is almost half a million dollars, and you know what? Sometimes, I still miss the old row home. Our neighbors there have been our lifelong friends.

But don't get me started on the lazy union workers.

29 posted on 09/23/2004 8:15:12 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: old and tired
Very true.

BTW: I was raised in suburbia, but have spent most of the last ten years living in a variety of urban areas. The union/"us versus them" mentality is a disease that unfortunately, still effects too many people I know.

30 posted on 09/23/2004 8:17:24 PM PDT by Clemenza (I LOVE Halliburton, SUVs and Assault Weapons. Any Questions?)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Yet another "not as devout as I should be" Catholic voting for Bush.


31 posted on 09/23/2004 8:19:50 PM PDT by Clemenza (I LOVE Halliburton, SUVs and Assault Weapons. Any Questions?)
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To: Coleus
This morning I affixed my new

VOTE CATHOLIC
NOT KERRY

bumper strip to my car. I live in a heavily Hispanic community and my car seems to spend a lot of time in the church parking lot. Who knows, maybe it will cause some thinking to occur that otherwise wouldn't.

The stickers are available at catholicsagainstkerry.com, BTW.

32 posted on 09/23/2004 9:13:57 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson (Ho, Ho, Ho Chi MInh/Loves John Kerry so vote him in!)
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To: diamond6

This Catholic is voting for GW. I refuse to cast my vote for someone who has called my vietnam vet relatives war criminals.


33 posted on 09/23/2004 9:20:05 PM PDT by Starhopper (Remember. For evil to conquer,good men need to do nothing.)
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To: MCH

Well said. Its just
a power trip.


34 posted on 09/23/2004 9:48:46 PM PDT by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: Coleus
The Catholic Vote happens to be the largest voting block in America. We may not always vote the right way; however, it doesn't change the facts.

Is is bigger than the Christian vote ? last time i checked protestants outnumber catholics.
35 posted on 09/23/2004 9:53:52 PM PDT by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: MCH
This article is crap. The very notion of a "Catholic" vote is ridiculous.

I agree. Catholics are now so assimilated, they no longer form a "bloc." Some are Demoncrats, some Pubs, and many don't vote. But I vote. And my wife votes. And we always "help" our elderly mother's to vote...So, the Catholics are leaning Bush (at least in my family..)

36 posted on 09/23/2004 9:59:02 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: newfarm4000n

Protestants are fragmented: Baptists, Presbyterians, Methodists, etc.


37 posted on 09/23/2004 10:05:55 PM PDT by Coleus (www.catholicTeamLeader.com)
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To: DManA
Ok, now we're up to 23 groups that will "decide" the election. All these stories are a total waste of time.

I thought there were 527 groups to decide it.

38 posted on 09/23/2004 10:53:12 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: MCH; LibertarianInExile; DManA; CurlyBill; Russ; moonman; Dog Gone
It’s About Abortion, Stupid
And other moral issues. Why John Kerry has trouble making the moral argument

The Democrats are likely to lose the Catholic vote in November—and John Kerry could well lose the election as a result.

39 posted on 09/28/2004 9:29:38 PM PDT by Coleus (moveOVER.org President Bush is going to win again, HhhhhhAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa)
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To: pax_et_bonum

So would this one but unfortunately I am not old enough...


40 posted on 11/01/2004 2:52:28 PM PST by Ethan_Allen1777
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