[Frank_Discussion]

I'm not defending GIJoel, I'm defending *myself* against a generalization that perceiving antidemocratic machinations on Putin's part is somehow loony. If he thinks that Islam is a great and wonderful thing, that's his delusion, and he can ride shotgun with Cat Stevens on his flight home.

MY point, as I tried to clear up a couple of posts back, is that the Russian (Soviet?) way is to use the tools available. Does Islam hate us of its own accord? Sure enough, and it should perish of its hatred, and the rest of world better reeaallly wake up and get that job done. Beyond that, the use of the islamofascists as a propaganda tool only shows that they aren't all that smart. Me pointing that out doesn't make me an Islam apologist.

[wtc911]

I didn't read anyone calling you a terrorist defender or an islam apologist. I will and do, along with others who have been following his threads, call joel both. You should not be slighted when nothing has been directed toward you.