Posted on 09/21/2004 4:47:21 PM PDT by Henchster
Shortly after the 2002 election, after watching the cadaver Lautenberg easily win after Torricelli had been way behind, I realized that assault on democracy, which well call the Torch Lighting, was simply a dry run for the real thing in 2004.
Everyone knows Hillary wants to be Queen, and not just of New York. Yet even Hillary the Vain knows she cant survive a year-long campaign, either her mouth or her past would catch up to her, and that would be the end of that. No, she needs a dramatically shortened campaign season to be successful.
How amazing that first Howard Dean and the other Dem hopefuls go down in flames, and Kerry, whose own campaign was on verge of collapse in December, rises up to be the nominee.
How convenient that Kerry emphasizes his brief Vietnam history, as flawed as it is, to focus his attacks on President Bushs Guard service. And yet, he flip-flopped from being for the war when he seeking the nomination, to being against it, and attacking the President on his Iraq War policy.
How ironic that Kerrys own service record falls apart under scrutiny, and his own campaign gets caught in a forged military records scandal.
These are NOT coincidences. Behind the scenes, for the last four years, the Clintons have been charting the course, picking the players, setting the policy, and tracking the results. When Dean looked poised to run away with the nomination, the Clintons whispered into the ears of fatcats in smokey back rooms that maybe they should get on the Kerry wagon, and Dean was gone faster than you could say YEEEAAAARRRGGGHH! Remember though, it wasnt the Dean-Scream that caused his plunge, the scream was the result of the Clinton influence that worked the least-liked, most wishy-washy, dopey, overly nuanced dork of the whole bunch from worst to first. Even Kucinich had more gravitas.
And now, the Clintons are ready, and in the perfect position, for the biggest power-play of their lives. The Torch Lighting of Kerry has started, and it will only be days before you begin to hear the grumblings of the liberal masses that Kerry is a loser, and maybe should be replaced. Once the media even starts to talk about the story, Kerry is French toast, and the move to replace Kerry with Hillary will be all but complete, with just the coronation speech to cap it off.
Heres my comment in August on the following post. Its worked out so far, and theres no reason to believe the Clintons would stop now:
1) Next week, RNC convention and very Presidential speech net Bush a 10 point lead in some polls.
2) Sep 5-15. Kerry continues to flip-flop, and get caught in more lies about his Vietnam "service."
3) Sep 15-25. Media covers Kerry implosion 24/7. Dems panic, launch "Torricelli Switch" trial balloon.
4) Sep 25-30. Kerry, under pressure from every side, drops out for X reason. (X = health, family, ?whatever dumb thing Kerry thinks of?)
5) Oct 1. Hillary "drafted" by Dems, makes droning "Ya know" speech. Liberal media go nuts, 24/7 Hillary love fest begins.
6) Month of Oct. Hillary gets clobbered by Bush in debates - liberal media still oozes Clinton DNA over her "Strong performances."
7) Nov 2. Hillary wins by narrow margin as liberal precincts around the country report record turnout - 150-200% in some cases.
Don't laugh, she's running THIS year. Everything is perfectly aligned, just as the Clintons have planned it since January 2001.
Be afraid, be VERY afraid.
9 posted on 08/26/2004 10:27:43 AM PDT by Henchster
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OK, things are going precisely as they have planned it, so what can us Freepers do to wreck this train before it even leaves the station?
Get the word out. Tell your friends, relatives, and especially, any news types you know. We need the story that Hillary is waiting to replace Kerry to be out there BEFORE it happens. That eliminates the media excitement factor to a degree.
Keep our eyes open for signs. Signs of a candidate in such deep trouble, hes starting to inflate the life raft.
Signs like:
Campaign stop or fundraiser cancellations. Post these ASAP and imply that Kerry is dropping out and will be replaced by Hillary any moment now.
Associates distancing themselves from Kerry. Like Edwards has already done! Michael Moore made some comments on how Kerry is a loser, but theyre stuck with him, so they need to make the best of it. Comments like that are just one short step away from abandonment.
Dont be complacent that Hillary cant win. Shell get virtually every vote that Gore got in 2000, plus a few female Bush voters who will vote for her just because shes a woman, and dont forget that vote fraud, theres no way theyll mess up again like they did in Florida by spiking the Buchanan hole instead of the Gore one.
She wanted the VP office when she was 1st Witch, Gore shut her out. She NEVER wants that office now, she wants the oval one.
Hillary will run THIS year because she can't wait, and feels (wrongly) that President Bush is beatable on the Iraq issue. (She's WRONG, I hope.)
Sorry, I've already said I'm not CERTAIN, but I certainly wouldn't count it out. She'll weigh the options until the last possible moment, and in the meantime, watch Jean Querry drop like a lead block in water.
You may be an "old timer" here;however,you obviously haven't managed to learn anything at all about politics in your 6+ years on FR.You're an embarrassment and BTW,please remove all of that tinfoil. ;^)
there IS the little matter of ballots having been printed in most states. OUr state has already begun to mail out absentee ballots .. it's just too late, the Democrats generally are suffering, thanks to Danno, and she is a very divisive person. Shewould not step into a race she could not win. NO way, she'll wait four years, by which time Edwards will have been too damaged from this year's campaign.
Well, there's over 200 posts, and FReepers are posting on all corners of the spectrum, so what are you afraid of?
Whooops! Look at the bright side... at least his shoes would be clean.
Don't post this kind of garbage.And don't backtrack,when called out,either.
Put up or shut up! If this happens,I'll leave FR.If it doesn't...........YOU LEAVE FOREVER.
If you don't take my offer,you'd better NOT post this kind of cretinous codswallop ever again.WHY? Because YOU and your ilk,who have been posting this crap for years now,without the slightest basis for doing so,are the antithesis of Buckhead and the other FREEPERS who make FR great.
You are en embarrassment and a disgrace to FR.
Of course there are a lot of posts to this thread...people who "get it",are fed up,as I am,with this garbage and the tinfoilers eat this fecal matter up.
Filing deadline? She filed in February.
Are you wearing TinFoil? You're nuts.
This is a forum of ideas and conservatism, not one of Blacklisting, Suppression, Filtering or Propaganda. If you don't like the thread, don't post to it, and it will die a quick death here on FR.
But thank you for your BTTT....Henchster
And your smarmy,nasty FREEPmail didn't intimidates me any,either.;^)
FR is supposed to be a Conservative political forum;NOT a place where the ill educated,uninformed,conspiracy theorists congregate to post threads that are not only invalid,but pathetic and frighteningly delusional in the extreme.
I'll say it again............if your scenario comes to fruition,I'll leave FR forever,if it doesn't...........YOU LEAVE FOREVER.
No...a group filed for her and that is invalid.She used to file,though;just NOT for this year. :-)
You sound like a CRAZY fool in your FReepmails, so STOP IT right now.
Do you think that maybe there are a few DemocRAT men that wouldn't vote for Hilly because she is a *itch, I mean a woman?
Not if he is alive, but a little thing like that wouldn't stand in her way, would it?
You didn't tell me any such thing in FREEPmail and neither have you said anything of the kind,on this thread,until now,that this is "a note to FREEPERS." I hope that you donate lots of money,because this thread is a total waste of bandwidth and meritless to boot.It serves less than no purpose at all.You posted it to News/activism;which it is neither.
If anything,it belongs in the smokey backroom;if anywhere on FR.
No,I don't sound anything at all like a "CRAZY" fool in Freepmail,nor on any thread I've ever posted to.What you don't like,is that I called a spade a spade,in no uncertain terms.I also challenged you to put up or shut up.
For years now,I have posted replies to these kinds of threads.First,I was proved correct,when Hillary didn't swan in and take the crown,when the primaries were ending.Then,I was correct,again,when she wasn't anointed on the last night of the Dem convention.And,I shall be correct,yet again,when she is NOT the last minute substitute for Kerry,who will NOT be killed off,but shall lose this election.
And just to fend off even more ridiculous mewlings,I'll state here and now, that the president and V.P. and as many others as anyone sees fit to speculate about,shan't be killed off and HITLERY! will NOT ascend the throne,errrrrrrrrr..I mean the presidency, instead of this election cycle's winner.
You want to see CRAZY ? Go look into the nearest mirror.;-)
The Constitution gives an unreviewable and uncheckable power to the Legislatures of the several states to prescribe the method of selecting electors for President and Vice President, that is true.
Once selected, however. it is the electors, not the Legislature which prescribed the method of their selection, that have immense (albeit temporary) power.
To say that defining the method of selection confers on the State Legislatures the power to prescribe how electors must vote once they are selected would imply that, prior to 1913, State Legislatures could instruct Senators on how to vote, which we know is not true.
Advise, yes.
Implore, even, yes.
But the Legislatures do not control the electors, which is why, contrary to original intent, most of them are ciphers chosen not for wit or wisdom, but for party loyalty.
No more money for the 2006 campaign until you apologize for the bullsh*t.
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