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To: ZULU
I generally am sympathtic to the sentiments of Native Americans,...

You mean "American aborigines" or, to use the British term, "Red Indians". A "native American" is anyone born w/i the goegrpahical borders of the United States.

Not meaning to scold, just that this term "Native American", like "self-confessed" (you don't confess to yourself) and "free gift" (For pete sake, what other kind of gift is there?), is a kind of verbal paper-cut to me; small but irritating as h---.

38 posted on 09/21/2004 10:56:03 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: yankeedame
I generally am sympathtic to the sentiments of Native Americans,...

You mean "American aborigines" or, to use the British term, "Red Indians". A "native American" is anyone born w/i the goegrpahical borders of the United States.

But since liberals advocate fascist ideology for favored races, they apply Charles Maurras/Oswald Spengler to them and insist that ze Volk is a Single Organism in which individuals are mere cells, constantly dying and being replenished for the sake of the Whole. And since ze Volk is the racial organism native to America then only its "cells" have the right to that title.

59 posted on 09/21/2004 12:00:53 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki kol 'elohei-ha`ammim 'elilim . . . veHaShem Shamayim `asah!)
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To: yankeedame

Trying to come up with a generally acceptable term for these people has become increasingly difficult in recent times. Like coming up for a term for non-Caucasoids whose ancestry originates in Africa.

Indians weren't "red". We believe that term came may have come from the appearance of the Beothuk people of Newfoundland, one of the first tribes encountered by European invaders. These people were extremely fond of the color red and painted their entire bodies with that pigment.
Unfortunately they were all exterminated by the Europeans at a very early date so we can't really get their opinion on the subject.

"First Nations" (another term) people's skin pigmentation varied from nearly black to light brown, depending on the tribe.

They like to refer to themselves as Native Americans to distinguish themselves from people who came here later. They also use "First Nations" as an alternate term.

I guess they are Native Americans, while we are native Americans?

When I see the term "aboriginee" I picture someone whose ancestor came originally from Australia, but I also know that is also a generalized term.

Are Black Africans "Blacks"?? Are they Africans? Are they "negroid"?? Some people in the South Pacific are black, so are Australian aboriginees, but they are not the same people as those blacks originiating in Africa.

"Negro" and "negroid" have acquired a negative connotation, but those words really mean "black" in Spanish so you are back where you started anyway. And African doesn't work as there are people from northern Africa like the Berbers and some Egyptians who are Caucasoid.

Political correctness has made life so much more complicated.


70 posted on 09/21/2004 1:13:09 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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