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Kerry Aide Talked to Retired Guard Officer (Lockhart called Burkett, on Mapes' Suggestion!)
Associated Press ^ | September 20, 2004

Posted on 09/20/2004 5:32:23 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War

Posted on Mon, Sep. 20, 2004

Kerry Aide Talked to Retired Guard Officer

Associated Press

NEW YORK - At the behest of CBS, an adviser to John Kerry said he talked to a central figure in the controversy over President Bush's National Guard service shortly before disputed documents were released.

Joe Lockhart denied any connection between the presidential campaign and the papers. Lockhart, the second Kerry ally to confirm contact with retired Texas National Guard officer Bill Burkett, said he made the call at the suggestion of CBS producer Mary Mapes.

"He had some advice on how to deal with the Vietnam issue and the Swift boat" allegations, Lockhart said Monday, referring to GOP-fueled accusations that Kerry exaggerated his Vietnam War record. "He said these guys play tough and we have to put the Vietnam experience into context and have Kerry talk about it more."

Lockhart said he thanked Burkett for his advice after a three to four minute call.

Lockhart said he does not recall talking to Burkett about Bush's Guard records. "It's baseless to say the Kerry campaign had anything to do with this," he said.

CBS News apologized Monday for a "mistake in judgment" in its story questioning Bush's Guard service, claiming it was misled by the source of documents that several experts have dismissed as fakes.

Burkett admitted this weekend to CBS that he lied about obtaining the documents from another former National Guard member, the network said. CBS hasn't been able to conclusively tell how he got them, or even whether they're fakes or not.

Kerry ally Max Cleland, a former Georgia senator, also said he had a brief conversation last month with Burkett, who told him he had information about Bush to counter charges against Kerry's Vietnam War service. Cleland said he gave Burkett's name and phone number to the campaign's research department.

Kerry spokesman David Ginsberg said nobody in the campaign's research department followed up on Burkett's offer of information.

Lockhart said Mapes asked him the weekend before the story broke to call Burkett. "She basically said there's a guy who is being helpful on the story who wants to talk to you," Lockhart said, adding that it was common knowledge that CBS was working on a story raising questions about Bush's Guard service. Mapes told him there were some records "that might move the story forward. She didn't tell me what they said."


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To: Lurking in Kansas
And it ain't even October yet! Ol' Karl still has a few aces up his sleeve.

At the rate things are going, he may never even need to play em. LOL.

261 posted on 09/20/2004 6:28:27 PM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: InterceptPoint

This is the earliest "Fortunate Son" article that I can find at google news, dated September 9th:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apelection_story.asp?category=1131&slug=Bush%20Fortunate%20Son

And this World Net Daily article:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40449

says the video was released on the 14th.


262 posted on 09/20/2004 6:29:01 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (Dan would RATHER lie.)
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To: Nova Reservist

Don't worry, the New York Times is on it as we speak!


263 posted on 09/20/2004 6:29:10 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Samwise
"I would willingly die for my country at a moment's notice and on the command of my president," says Rather.
264 posted on 09/20/2004 6:29:14 PM PDT by CJ Wolf ((perhaps this is that moment))
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To: Martin Tell

I'll betcha Burkett faxed to those other news outlets, independent of his jiggery-pokery that he was conducting with Mapes/Rather.

Like I said, this has now gone into the criminal acts realm, with proven forgery of government documents.


265 posted on 09/20/2004 6:29:20 PM PDT by BigKahuna
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To: Martin Tell

Man, I sure would hate to be Burkett right now~ He's a dead man forging.


266 posted on 09/20/2004 6:29:24 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: Chummy
"Lockhart said he does not recall talking to Burkett about Bush's Guard records...."

How far were his eyes bugging out of head when he said this?

267 posted on 09/20/2004 6:29:52 PM PDT by IrishGOP (John "Peace in our time" Kerry NO THANKS!)
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To: Chummy
Slick taught us to keep a wary eye on what these wordbenders are pushin', and what Lockhart is not saying is that they talked about phonied-up records....

You are correct.

Best not to jump right on this tarbaby

268 posted on 09/20/2004 6:30:11 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Really? Yeeks.


269 posted on 09/20/2004 6:30:21 PM PDT by theDentist ("John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute.")
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To: commish
"This is no longer a fight over JOhn Kerry winning in 2004, these are the first shots of an internacene war for control of the DNC for 2008 and beyond. The Clinton's have begun making thier move to total nuetralize the Kennedy faction and consolidate the radicals lefts hold on everything Democrat."

I think you hit the nail on the head.

270 posted on 09/20/2004 6:30:36 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: Dont Mention the War
Where are Kerrys records and what Discharge did he get for treason??
271 posted on 09/20/2004 6:30:46 PM PDT by Fast1 (Kerry for an Islamic America.)
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To: commish
At the rate things are going, he may never even need to play em.

Really. Wouldn't just love to know a tenth of what Karl has?? ;-)

272 posted on 09/20/2004 6:30:48 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (--Your message could post here--)
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To: BigKahuna

The only problem is they are not forged documents, they are just plain fakes.

If they cut and pasted a scan of Killian's signature (which looks like they did and it shrunk more via the repeated faxing and copying) then maybe you could go for identity theft.

But forgery can't be proven.


273 posted on 09/20/2004 6:31:14 PM PDT by Fledermaus (If Dan Rather was duped, he's incompetent. If he was in on it, he's proven media bias exist.)
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To: BigKahuna
Forgery of official government documents is a Class 3 felony in the U.S. criminal code.

Does that include stealing them from the National Archives, shoving them down your pants, marking them up and then returning them later?

274 posted on 09/20/2004 6:31:25 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: Vinomori

The "I don't recall" defense is along the same lines as what we call the S.A.D.D.I. ("soddy") defense. You know, "some other dude did it". Neither of the two have been anything but marginally successful as a defense in the criminal courts.

Though it did work for Clinton. Hmmmmm.....


275 posted on 09/20/2004 6:31:28 PM PDT by BigKahuna
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To: wildbill

But where the hell does Barnes fit in? This smells like Martin Frost involvement.


276 posted on 09/20/2004 6:31:30 PM PDT by samantha (Don't panic, the adults are in charge)
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To: terilyn
I want to know when the "Fortunate son" DNC commercial first ran. It has video in it of Barnes and the documents. If CBS provided it to the DNC so they had it in the can ready to go on Thursday morning after 60 Minutes II aired...

The ad came out the Tuesday after Dan's document dump

The question is .. when exactly was that interview of Barnes done? .. because that is in the ad also

That ad was planned ahead of time ... or those folks at the DNC are REALLY REALLY fast in putting it together and making copies to be sent to the TV stations

277 posted on 09/20/2004 6:31:37 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: All
Hannity and Colmes just broke the story, Sean Hannity--"Iwant to know what did they know and when did they know it!"
Laura Ingraham "what is a cbs producer doing calling Lockhart" it got wild from there.
278 posted on 09/20/2004 6:31:40 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( President Reagan---all the rest.)
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To: Dog

I just started reading this, but must pause now to go and don my silk pajamas!!!!

A special occasion if I've ever heard one!!!

Woopie!! The rats can't bail out fast enough to keep from sinking now.


279 posted on 09/20/2004 6:31:47 PM PDT by sissyjane (Silk pajamas for dress up, and flannel for everyday-perfect Freeper wardrobe!!)
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To: Sivad

Yup, my thoughts too. If Fox had done this with Bush, the dems would already be starting impeachment procedures. As it stands now, if Kerry pulls out a miracle and wins, he will be brought down hard by this. He wouldn't even be able to govern.


280 posted on 09/20/2004 6:31:49 PM PDT by boop (Testing the tagline feature!)
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