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Commons stormed as MPs vote to ban hunting
The Western Mail ^ | Sep 16 2004 | Kirsty Buchanan

Posted on 09/18/2004 5:40:12 PM PDT by Former Military Chick

MPS voted overwhelmingly to ban hunting after a debate was interrupted when five demonstrators stormed the Commons chamber yesterday.

Emergency talks were being held last night after the third House of Commons security breach in six months despite millions being spent on tightening security at Westminster.

News of the breach, which forced a 20-minute suspension of the hunting debate, was greeted with cheers by 10,000 pro-hunt protesters who rallied outside in Parliament Square. Frustration and anger turned to violence as hundreds of protesters tried to breach police barricades only to be beaten back.

Four demonstrators burst onto the floor from behind the Speaker's chair while a fifth dodged a doorkeeper guarding the main entrance.

Some Labour MPs shouted "get out" as one protester screamed at Rural Affairs Minister and Cardiff South MP Alun Michael, "This isn't democracy. You are overturning democracy."

The stunt may have a long-term impact on Commons security but it did little to halt the Second Reading of the Hunting Bill. In a free vote MPs voted for a ban by 356 votes to 166 for a ban.

The Bill will be debated by the Lords next month and, if they reject it, the Parliament Act will be used to get it onto the statute books.

With a ban expected by July, 31, 2006, the Countryside Alliance has warned of mass defiance in the countryside as well as a lengthy legal challenge.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; hunting
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While this is news in another country, I find it interesting. I wonder if this were to pass what this would do to the fiber of their country. They are so into tradition.
1 posted on 09/18/2004 5:40:12 PM PDT by Former Military Chick
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"They are so into tradition."

Nutless tradition now, that's the only difference.

2 posted on 09/18/2004 5:42:47 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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4 posted on 09/18/2004 5:45:26 PM PDT by Ladysmith (Wanted: Pajamas designed with purple-hearted bandaids.)
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I have to admit that I agree. I mean, I find it all right for those who go venison hunting, they do not leave the animal there they make use out of as many parts of the animal as possible.
Hunting a fox, I have to wonder.


5 posted on 09/18/2004 5:50:38 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (Ticked OFF in the heartland.)
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Wunnerful. Maybe those MPs will start culling of foxes to prevent rabies outbreaks a few years from now. The arrogance of the Euro-socialist mindset amazes me. These people would try to browbeat us into repealing the 2nd amendment if we let them.


6 posted on 09/18/2004 5:51:00 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: rockchalk1

Welcome to FreeRepublic.


7 posted on 09/18/2004 5:53:54 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: Former Military Chick

Fox Hunting was training for warfare.

In the days when no one objected to fox hunting, England had an empire.


8 posted on 09/18/2004 5:55:46 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Former Military Chick

I am curious about what they use to hunt with? Rocks? I didn't think they were allowed to own guns or knives. Mrs PD


9 posted on 09/18/2004 5:58:36 PM PDT by pepperdog
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It's NOT ENTERTAINMENT. It is seeking a renewal and a connection with nature. It "IS" the ultimate Enviormental experience and if you need furtherer explanation I doubt you have the time or attention span. You see, you'll need to spend countless hours sitting quietly waiting and observing, sweating and freezing and coming home empty handed 75% of the time to appreciate hunting. Oh yes and then there's the reward. The delicacies that can only be enjoyed through fresh game cooking.


10 posted on 09/18/2004 6:05:17 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: Former Military Chick

Note to gun rights people here: If gun ownership becomes connected to hunting, and hunting is then banned ... do the math. This is one of many reasons to keep hammering on the point that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting, except that it's good practice.


11 posted on 09/18/2004 6:12:50 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Falcon4.0

Hunting is the closest sport to heaven there ever will be. Can't explain it, it just is. It's nothing but a spiritual experience.


12 posted on 09/18/2004 6:12:57 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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Oh yes and then there's the reward. The delicacies that can only be enjoyed through fresh game cooking.

The debate this article references in Britain refers to Fox hunting. How does one prepare fox?

13 posted on 09/18/2004 6:20:42 PM PDT by Cagey ("We need a leader, not a weather vane".....................Laura Armstrong)
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To: coloradan

Totally agree.


14 posted on 09/18/2004 6:24:24 PM PDT by Ladysmith (Wanted: Pajamas designed with purple-hearted bandaids.)
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To: Cagey

on a bed of rice.

in a soup.

barbequed.


15 posted on 09/18/2004 6:25:26 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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The debate this article references in Britain refers to Fox hunting. How does one prepare fox?

Fox are hunted, in part, because they are competing predators. The hunt keeps the population under control.

To the animal being hunted, it makes no difference if they are hunted for the spiritual experience (sport) or for food. I am sure that fox can be prepared quite well. I believe they are eaten in China.

16 posted on 09/18/2004 6:33:11 PM PDT by marktwain
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Fox hunting in England has several purposes, none of which have anything to do with eating the fox.

One is the prevention of the spread of distemper. Rabies has not existed in England since 1902, that's the reason their quarantine on imported animals is so very strict. But with the Chunnel it's only a matter of time, in fact I think there are probably already a few cases out there that haven't been recognized yet.

But far more important is holding down the fox population to prevent predation on poultry and other small animals. A fox will slaughter an entire coop full of chickens just for fun. England doesn't have a lot of undeveloped land, what's not built over is agricultural, there's just enough brush and woodland to have a covert to draw - so it doesn't take much of an increase in the fox population to have them all over the farmyards AND suburban gardens.

Here in the U.S. we have so much impenetrable brush and woods that the fox is very rarely killed. Of course half the time now the hounds are finding coyotes here in N. GA . . .

17 posted on 09/18/2004 6:33:27 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Falcon4.0
It is seeking a renewal and a connection with nature. It "IS" the ultimate Enviormental experience and if you need furtherer explanation I doubt you have the time or attention span. You see, you'll need to spend countless hours sitting quietly waiting and observing, sweating and freezing and coming home empty handed 75% of the time to appreciate hunting. Oh yes and then there's the reward. The delicacies that can only be enjoyed through fresh game cooking.

I really, really enjoy rabbit hunting, and all you have said here is true. However every bit of it would also apply to learning about, collecting and using native plants. So, anyone so inclined can experience this connection with nature without any killing of animals.

18 posted on 09/18/2004 7:05:43 PM PDT by Aarchaeus
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bump


19 posted on 09/18/2004 7:16:25 PM PDT by lowbridge (I wouldn't want to be a liberals caps lock key on election day)
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To: MadIvan

Ping


20 posted on 09/18/2004 7:18:17 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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