[Robert A Cook PE]

Welcome here.

The union (as an entity by itself) doesn't make (or break) the person, what's regrettable is that the illegal activities, bribery/corruption, and political power games so frequently seen now are tied back to the union base.

Again, it's the person at fault, but too often, the union (as a group and power base) exploits that "band" which becomes lawbreakers.

Perhaps rooted in "tradition", back in the earlier days when both sides were immoral and lawbreakers?

[MaggiesDad]

I am not defending unions or thugs that tend to run them,
I am just saying that there are a lot of people (like me)
that are sane and are in a union just because you have to.