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Hurricane Ivan -- Thursday 9/16 thread [Landfall!]
NWS/NHC, various | 9/16/2004

Posted on 09/15/2004 7:38:29 PM PDT by lainie

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To: beckybea

I usually shop at the last minute with Peterson and can grab an empty week for 1200-2500 beachfront home or stand alone townhouse right on the beach facing the gulf.

I'm self employed so I can be very flexible.

I saw a home in called San Souci in July on a cul de sac near Luna del Mar (right before that state preserve overrun with homosexuals)...a big modern wooden structure on a high dune....I might pay the big bucks to get that one...we really liked it.


but....young folks who I guess inherited money or are married doctors buy these 2-4 million dollar beachfront homes and still rent them for say 4-5K/week. Even if you rent them for all summer and then half rent for the rest....no way can you make the nut on a 2 million dollar 20-30 year mortgage and agent fees and taxes and upkeep.

baffles me.

I can rent "caddillac" property down there for 2-4 weeks a year for 40 years and never dent that kind of expense.

I've seen folks at Perdido and San Destin buy 3 bedroom condos in 88 for 150K and today they are worth 750K minimum.

Sweet for them

Our family mountain top digs at Grandfather Mt has about quadrupled since 84 as well.

It's much harder to find economic vacation digs....maybe some inland lakes ...Possum Kingdom?


921 posted on 09/16/2004 7:03:35 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: TheLion

The track is way weird going southward back out, according to Wunderground. Very strange. But go figure a storm system. Perhaps ivan just doesn't like Virginia which is fine by me. As far as co-mingling with Jeanne - ain't gonna happen.


922 posted on 09/16/2004 7:04:00 PM PDT by southriver4
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To: AUsome Joy

Well, the NOAA site for Birmingham is updating again, and the winds have dropped. I tried calling my cousin but there is no answer which means either his phone is out or he left for a shelter or who knows what. Have you any updates from there?


923 posted on 09/16/2004 7:04:10 PM PDT by NCjim
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To: valleygal

Great Lemonfish....(cobia to non-gulf folkies)


The Sand Flea was high cotton in those days....the old building is still there btw.


924 posted on 09/16/2004 7:04:34 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: NCjim

Yes, p/c saying the power is out in Montgomery,and Birmingham. I'm not sure if that is in areas, or city wide.

We have power outages in the County and various areas in the City.


925 posted on 09/16/2004 7:12:53 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: wardaddy

Weatherman on Fox just said if Ivan stalls and remains in the Smokies without moving in the Carolinas, Hurricane Jeanne will come into Florida..probably SE and go into the gulf! If Ivan goes into the Carolinas, the Bermuda High weakens and Ivan goes toward the Carolinas. Right now the steering currents are moving her toward Florida.


926 posted on 09/16/2004 7:13:23 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: valleygal

I love parts of DeFuniak, especially the old colonials around the lake. Glad to hear your dad is ok.

You've probably seen the devastation in P'cola. Wow.

My family can't get back for days because of flooding and roads that no longer exist, there might not be power for weeks and the rumor is that school might be postponed until Novmeber.

So they're in their cars hotel hopping.


927 posted on 09/16/2004 7:16:26 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (No, I didn't, but I know a guy who did.)
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Has anyone heard anything about how Eglin AFB faired? My daughter and son-in-law evacuated down here to Orlando, and are worryed about their base house there. They don't know when they will be allowed to return. My parents, grandmother and aunt who live in Bluewater Bay (Niceville - outside of Destin) stayed put and are safe and sound. Lots of trees down and roof damage to my parents' house and to many in their development. They actually had their power restored this afternoon so they are real happy about that. I'm going to buy them a chainsaw and send it back up with my daughter and son-in-law. I have relatives up in Birmingham who lost their power and have been told it will be the 20th before it will be restored. A cousin in Auburn has been told she probably won't get her's back on until beginning of October. I'm just thankful that everyone is safe. What a brutal month we've all had.


928 posted on 09/16/2004 7:17:10 PM PDT by Lorraine
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To: lainie

Question for hurricane literate folks.

What am I seeing when looking at Jeanne on this link?

It almost looks like two systems merged together, but only one has the counter clockwise motion, the other just looks like really intense weather.

Can somebody give me an explanation?

Thanks.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/watl-ir4-loop.html


929 posted on 09/16/2004 7:20:11 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: wardaddy

It's much harder to find economic vacation digs....maybe some inland lakes ...Possum Kingdom?

Mexico Beach rentals are more economic. I hear that's the "new frontier".


930 posted on 09/16/2004 7:20:59 PM PDT by beckybea
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To: Letitring

Thank you for the update! I guess I just have to be patient... not my strong suit.


931 posted on 09/16/2004 7:22:55 PM PDT by NCjim
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To: hawkk
What part of P-cola are they in?

Sorry it took me so long to reply. We've been busy all day trying to get a hold of them. We've not heard from them since 10 30 this morning. We're a bit concerned naturally. My parents are going down there Saturday morning even if we don't hear from them. They are part of a disaster relief team and were supposed to go down there on Sept 25 but now that it's personal, they're going earlier.

They live in West Pensacola. They live off of Fairfield. Do you know where that is? It's been a couple of years since I've been there and the best I can remember is when you're on Fairfield coming from Hwy 29 going west, their neighborhood is right before you get to that split to go to the base and the beach. I just remember seeing signs saying Eglin and Pcola Beach.

Oh, btw, I have heard more since my last post. If I can remember correctly, the last I posted was everyone was okay but couldn't see the damage just yet. Well, at 10 30 am, we got a report from them and they said there was some damage on my aunt's roof. Her next door neighbor's house was damaged badly. The cousin who is the retired Marine with very bad rheumatoid arthritis lost his pool. That pool was his prized possession. They installed it for his therapy. All of their trees are down. Luckily none of the trees fell on their houses. But everyone is okay as of 10 30 this am. We have not been able to contact them on their cell phones since this am. It's nervewracking especially knowing that the storm wasn't really over til this afternoon.

While typing this out, I just remembered more specifically about where this neighborhood is. That split I was talking about, once you go towards the beach, you're on 9th Street going all the way down to where you get to this curve and you go under a small bridge and then you get ready to get on the Three Mile Bridge. God, I love that Three Mile Bridge.

932 posted on 09/16/2004 7:23:50 PM PDT by Vol2727 (So they could race the sun.........)
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To: Lorraine

Go to wwwmyflorida.com. You can find Hurricane Ivan information updates about roads, bridges, etc. Maybe there's info about Eglin.


933 posted on 09/16/2004 7:25:20 PM PDT by beckybea
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To: Lorraine


Don't know anything for sure, but I've hear that hwy 89 doesn't exist in many places.

fwiw there are some moving picture galleries on these sites:


www.pensacolanewsjournal.com

www.weather.com


934 posted on 09/16/2004 7:26:26 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (No, I didn't, but I know a guy who did.)
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To: southriver4

This is a very lovely area - we love it!!!

We've been very lucky, to be perfectly honest. It seems the folks on the Western shore have gotten hit worse than we have.

We've only been here a year and a half, but I've lived on DelMarVa (in Delaware) for more than 20 years - the peninsula has been very lucky in all those years.


935 posted on 09/16/2004 7:33:44 PM PDT by Gabz (Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
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To: Vol2727

I live in Knoxville and yes, we are getting slammed. At five pm this afternoon they had already closed our schools even some colleges for tomorrow. Luckily, we live on high ground so we shouldn't get much flooding however, we have trees all around us but we should be okay. The worst of it is supposed to hit us sometime late tonite.


936 posted on 09/16/2004 7:34:18 PM PDT by Vol2727 (So they could race the sun.........)
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To: dawn53

It's structured a bit weirdly. The Leftmost thing is Jeanne (with an eye.) The blob on the right is just a band of Jeanne (that has produced 20+ inches of rain over Vieques.)


937 posted on 09/16/2004 7:42:22 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Ditter

CNN says 8 souls lost.


938 posted on 09/16/2004 7:46:01 PM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie

Miami Herald says 13. Guess we don't know yet.


939 posted on 09/16/2004 7:48:39 PM PDT by lainie
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To: Strategerist

Thanks...it just looked so weird, and I wondered what I was looking at!


940 posted on 09/16/2004 7:50:35 PM PDT by dawn53
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