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AP stands by its story about anti-Bush SEAL (Freeper Travis McGee mentioned)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 9/13/04

Posted on 09/13/2004 1:43:11 PM PDT by ambrose

about anti-Bush SEAL

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Monday, September 13, 2004



ELECTION 2004
AP stands by its story
about anti-Bush SEAL

Man with Muslim name doesn't come up on search of elite sailors


Posted: September 13, 2004
4:06 p.m. Eastern

By Ron Strom


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

An Associated Press reporter is standing by his story that describes an anti-Bush veteran as a former Navy SEAL in the face of questions about whether or not the man was in fact a member of the elite unit.

The reporter, Elliott Minor says the Albany, Ga., man, Ahmad Majied, doesn't show up on lists of former SEALs because he changed his name when he converted to Islam after leaving the Navy.

In a story reporting the reactions of U.S. military personnel and veterans to allegations that President Bush failed to perform to National Guard standards, Minor quotes several current and former military men. Here is an excerpt from the AP story:

Ahmad Majied of Albany says the latest allegations about Bush's military record are more troubling to him than allegations about service honors leveled at Democratic challenger Kerry.

Majied, a Democrat from Albany who served 30 years in the Navy, including five years as a SEAL in Vietnam, said the memos support his belief that Bush was a "playboy" during his service years.

"He had enough money to get what he wanted," Majied said. "I think his main concern was not to go to Southeast Asia. I bet he never dreamed it would come back to haunt him."

After reading the account, Travis McGee, a poster on FreeRepublic.com, contacted an organization called AuthentiSEAL, which researches claims by people posing as Navy SEALs, to see if Majied indeed had been a SEAL. According to his post, McGee received a response from Gregory Platt, an investigator with the group, saying the name Ahmad Majied does not come up on a search of former SEALs.

McGee says he became suspicious of the claim when he read that Majied had been in Vietnam for five years.

"When this fake SEAL's claim of spending five years in Vietnam was pointed out to me, I knew he couldn't be for real," he writes at Free Republic. "SEALs deployed to VN for six month tours, so 'five years in Vietnam' seemed highly improbable. I knew lots of multiple tour 'real deal Vietnam SEALs' during my peacetime duty in the teams in the 1980s, and I never heard of this guy.

"This only took a couple of minutes time for 'amateurs' on Free Republic to check out. The 'professional' journalists at the AP must have been to busy to do this basic checking."

In an interview with WorldNetDaily, however, Minor says he has no reason to disbelieve Majied's story.

"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."

Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."

The vet has received "nasty calls" since the issue has been publiclized, Minor says, adding, "This is a very peaceful guy. … There's a peace about his voice."

Minor says Majied homeschools his seven children. "These are really upstanding people," he told WND.

The AP reporter addressed McGee's criticism of spending five months in Vietnam, saying Majied told him he was based in the Philippines and would go to Vietnam for short stints and then return to the islands.

"Altogether it was probably five years [in Vietnam]," Minor said.

Minor spoke to Majied this afternoon to try to verify the issue, and he said the veteran has refused to speak to other media about the issue.

He said of the Majieds: "I've met them around town, and they're just nice people. … I just really think a lot of him."

Internet bloggers challenging the claims of mainstream media outlets has become more prevalent recently. It was on the Net where the first questions were raised about National Guard memos CBS News claims show that Bush's former commander, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, was resisting pressure from his superior, Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, to "sugarcoat" Bush's officer evaluation files.

Document experts and amateur sleuths began questioning the memos' authenticity within hours after they were published on the Internet, citing typographical and formatting issues that suggest they were created by a modern-day word processor rather than a Vietnam War-era typewriter.

Despite the irregularities of the memos and the fact that a source CBS used to prove its case is saying the documents are forgeries, network anchor Dan Rather stands by the story he presented on "60 Minutes II" last week.

Related stories:

Bush Guard papers forged, says source

Rather backs docs on Evening News

Ben Barnes' daughter: Father lied about Bush

CBS News denies Bush docs forged


Ron Strom is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.



TOPICS: Free Republic; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ahmadmajied; ap; associatedpress; congrats; elliottminor; fakeseal; fakeseals; majied; medialies; mediots; minor; poorjournalism; seal; seals
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To: ambrose

What I want to know is how Mr. Minor found Mr. Majied in the first place to interview.

Did one of the local civil rights orgs. or mosques recommend Majied as a "typical Albany veteran" who wanted to opine on the whole Vietnam issue, did Majied recommend himself when a local civil rights org./mosque was looking for vets?

Has anyone said how these two (Minor and Majied) were able to cross paths?


181 posted on 09/13/2004 3:46:43 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: sharktrager
"No way to check. We'd need an alumni of the university."

Where did he go to Elementary school or high school? Church. . .before he 'converted'. . .?

182 posted on 09/13/2004 3:47:46 PM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: So Cal Rocket

a real idiot would have asked that sooo important question.


183 posted on 09/13/2004 3:48:03 PM PDT by jincarolina
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To: elfman2
" To harass this guy ..."

As I see it, EVERY special forces member or unit, past or present, has the right to demand verification when someone goes public. They've earned it. He voluntarily talked to AP and made the claim, it's up to him to prove it. If he did, he would get a number of apologies and be left alone.

184 posted on 09/13/2004 3:48:24 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (www.opgratitude.com)
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To: sharktrager; All

p.s.. . .(beyond 'grade school/high school)how about his 'next of kin' on records. . .Father's name et al; surely they are not Muslim as well. . .


185 posted on 09/13/2004 3:49:54 PM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: rolling_stone

Follow the link in #84 above.


186 posted on 09/13/2004 3:49:56 PM PDT by elfman2
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To: justshutupandtakeit

yeah and since when these clowns approve of home schooling?


187 posted on 09/13/2004 3:51:30 PM PDT by jincarolina
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To: elfman2

It's preposterous that he was in VN for five years. He used his lie as the basis to slam Bush, so he's fair game.

If I claimed that I was a police investigator in your town for five years, and I knew you were the town drunk and beat your wife, but as a cop I used another name back then.... And I can't tell anyone what my name was back then....

Would you mind if AP new reporters ran my "story," without checking my bona fides?

This creep has stolen the valor and honor of real VN SEALs, in order to slam Bush.

Tough luck if he gets slammed back.


188 posted on 09/13/2004 3:52:53 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: A Navy Vet

I don’t think it’ll be viewed like that by the majority. And if not, it works against us.

I think everyone has a right to silence. If someone wants to challenge it, it’s up to them to do the legwork.


189 posted on 09/13/2004 3:53:40 PM PDT by elfman2
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To: A Navy Vet

He did worse than just make the claim. If he was a bar braggart, I could care less. He used his false SEAL bona fides as the basis to slam Bush. That made him a public player.


190 posted on 09/13/2004 3:54:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
" It's preposterous that he was in VN for five years."

Is it? In the Navy? On tour in a combat zone? Also, he didn’t claim he “knew” anything, certainly not in an official capacity like your silly analogy. He had an opinion, and calmed a valor that’s in doubt, but not yet disproved. Innocent until guilty is a fundamental principle of freedom.

191 posted on 09/13/2004 3:57:46 PM PDT by elfman2
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To: Tamsey
I wish they had mentioned that this fella is also a Muslim Imam....

I wonder whether he got orders from "higher up" in his Mosque to come out with this disinformation.

They probably thought it would be accepted without question by the media. (/sarcasm)

192 posted on 09/13/2004 3:57:50 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dick Cheney is MY dark, macho, paranoid Vice President!)
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To: Travis McGee

Within the week we'll seen some sappy journalist schmo write an AP article claiming there is no "Travis Mcgee" in the Seal Records!


193 posted on 09/13/2004 4:02:05 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Partisan Political Operative)
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To: Travis McGee
"That made him a public player."

I said "public"...we're on the same page.

194 posted on 09/13/2004 4:05:00 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (www.opgratitude.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Check ur mail


195 posted on 09/13/2004 4:05:35 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Not just being a SEAL, but also that he retired at the rank he told someone that he had. There have only been ten in the entire history of the USN. Their pictures are on the web

He claims to be an MACM according to the roll of a retired vets org. You have MACM confused with MCPON. With such a basic mistake I have to question whether you are a Navy Seal. Will you post your real name and info here so we can check it out?
196 posted on 09/13/2004 4:15:27 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Rebelbase

Great. I would answer that in one minute. But even an AP reporter might go to the website in my tagline, it's all there.


197 posted on 09/13/2004 4:16:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: elfman2
Now you sound JUST like Dan Rather. It's "possible" that Killian typed those memos back in 1973, using today's MS Word default settings.


198 posted on 09/13/2004 4:18:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: annyokie

Patriarchal ... we're also patriarchal.

But at least when Der Net-Knight is 58-60, like the gent in this article, all our (current) kids will be out of the house!


199 posted on 09/13/2004 4:22:37 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dick Cheney is MY dark, macho, paranoid Vice President!)
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To: Mystic
Checked acronyms and learned MACM is Master Chief Machine Accountant (Naval Rating)

If you want to earn your pajamas you better try again.
200 posted on 09/13/2004 4:22:38 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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