Posted on 09/13/2004 1:43:11 PM PDT by ambrose
about anti-Bush SEAL
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Monday, September 13, 2004
ELECTION 2004 Posted: September 13, 2004 4:06 p.m. Eastern
By Ron Strom An Associated Press reporter is standing by his story that describes an anti-Bush veteran as a former Navy SEAL in the face of questions about whether or not the man was in fact a member of the elite unit.
The reporter, Elliott Minor says the Albany, Ga., man, Ahmad Majied, doesn't show up on lists of former SEALs because he changed his name when he converted to Islam after leaving the Navy.
In a story reporting the reactions of U.S. military personnel and veterans to allegations that President Bush failed to perform to National Guard standards, Minor quotes several current and former military men. Here is an excerpt from the AP story:
Ahmad Majied of Albany says the latest allegations about Bush's military record are more troubling to him than allegations about service honors leveled at Democratic challenger Kerry.
After reading the account, Travis McGee, a poster on FreeRepublic.com, contacted an organization called AuthentiSEAL, which researches claims by people posing as Navy SEALs, to see if Majied indeed had been a SEAL. According to his post, McGee received a response from Gregory Platt, an investigator with the group, saying the name Ahmad Majied does not come up on a search of former SEALs.
McGee says he became suspicious of the claim when he read that Majied had been in Vietnam for five years.
"When this fake SEAL's claim of spending five years in Vietnam was pointed out to me, I knew he couldn't be for real," he writes at Free Republic. "SEALs deployed to VN for six month tours, so 'five years in Vietnam' seemed highly improbable. I knew lots of multiple tour 'real deal Vietnam SEALs' during my peacetime duty in the teams in the 1980s, and I never heard of this guy.
"This only took a couple of minutes time for 'amateurs' on Free Republic to check out. The 'professional' journalists at the AP must have been to busy to do this basic checking."
In an interview with WorldNetDaily, however, Minor says he has no reason to disbelieve Majied's story.
"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."
Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."
The vet has received "nasty calls" since the issue has been publiclized, Minor says, adding, "This is a very peaceful guy. There's a peace about his voice."
Minor says Majied homeschools his seven children. "These are really upstanding people," he told WND.
The AP reporter addressed McGee's criticism of spending five months in Vietnam, saying Majied told him he was based in the Philippines and would go to Vietnam for short stints and then return to the islands.
"Altogether it was probably five years [in Vietnam]," Minor said.
Minor spoke to Majied this afternoon to try to verify the issue, and he said the veteran has refused to speak to other media about the issue.
He said of the Majieds: "I've met them around town, and they're just nice people. I just really think a lot of him."
Internet bloggers challenging the claims of mainstream media outlets has become more prevalent recently. It was on the Net where the first questions were raised about National Guard memos CBS News claims show that Bush's former commander, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, was resisting pressure from his superior, Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, to "sugarcoat" Bush's officer evaluation files.
Document experts and amateur sleuths began questioning the memos' authenticity within hours after they were published on the Internet, citing typographical and formatting issues that suggest they were created by a modern-day word processor rather than a Vietnam War-era typewriter.
Despite the irregularities of the memos and the fact that a source CBS used to prove its case is saying the documents are forgeries, network anchor Dan Rather stands by the story he presented on "60 Minutes II" last week.
Related stories:
Bush Guard papers forged, says source
Rather backs docs on Evening News
Ben Barnes' daughter: Father lied about Bush
CBS News denies Bush docs forged
Ron Strom is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com. |
No wonder.
I really don't care how "upstanding" and "nice" this guy is----if he went on the record with a major news organization (AP) and made a statement, he made himself a part of the campaign story.
There were and are outstanding African-American Navy UDT frogmen and SEALs going way back. Outstanding.
Seems like it would narrow down the field quite a bit. Blacks are around 10% of the population and that would cut the 260 possible SEALs down to 26 or less. That's a pretty elite group. Add to that the ship he was on and you have an even smaller group.
And his real name is ?? If he refuses to say it, refuse to believe the source.
How many guys by that name who served in the navy can their be in Albany, GA?
If I were to put forth into print, claims against others by an alleged Navy Seal, you can bet I'd PRESS THE ISSUE by asking for the name under which he was Navy Seal.
Even a bank won't take your word for it whomever you "claim to be" when you want to open an account....much less withdraw funds.
I'd think a JOURNALIST, especially writing a defamatory piece and whose reputation, therefore, is at stake (if that's of any concern, of course), would DEMAND PROOF & CREDENTIALS, etc., JUST LIKE A BANK.
Ping!
Have fun following this one, Cuz!
I guess I'd be more interested in hearing how this reporter and the sidewalk commando hooked up in the first place.
Makes a fellow curious about what kind of chum is being spread to attract the wannabees to hit the surface lures.
OK, its on the way.
Anyone else wishing to contact AP: info@ap.org
You know it is amazing. . .you would think after Jayson Blair. . .that ANYone so inclined. . .but no. . .they keep doing the same. Think perhaps their greatest mental block is caused by their 'college learned'- in many cases - Leftist education.
This orientation creates it's own, built in; albeit, false - intellectual and moral superiority; with a compensating arrogance that just protects these 'victims', from the realities and values that shape and inhibit their peers.
A truth that motivates others - be it politicians or. . .journalists, is by the very root of 'Leftist idiology'; absent.
'Leftism' does not encourage an appreciation of Truth; but rather the appreciation of the 'utilitarian' - whatever means to an end modus operandi - it takes; to serve the collective cause is what has value. The 'value' served; is the superior 'many' over the 'one'. The moral superiority of the group over the lesser individual. That's it!
These people are hopelessly hooked; and so, they cannot learn from their mistakes; and will not; until they are ready to appreciate the fallacy of their belief system and embrace a genuine Truth.
Old Ahmad Majied is probably a lot closer to being an Iman Black Muslim al Fuqar instigator than being a former Navy Seal.
"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."
Straight from the Dan Rather School of Journalism.
Any chance that a freeper in Albany can check this out?
Gosh, with that great documentation and investigative work, it's a wonder they ever get in trouble. < /sarcasm >
Don't be so jaded. Didn't you see that the reporter said he had a "peace" about him?
I wonder if this intrepid urinalist could tell us the number of the SEAL team that this man was supposedly in.
Your child's Weekly Reader. Harmless little newspaper for young minds, right? Begin reading it for real. I did last year and while most of it is innocent enough - I began seeing a slant that I really didn't want to see. Take a look at this http://weeklyreader.com/election/issues.asp
Talking points right out of DNC in comparing the two candidates
JMHO
I have even money right now that this guy was not only NOT a SEAL, but was never even in Vietnam.
BTW. He home-schools 7 kids? His own kids? Seven of them still in school even though the guy would have to be in his mid 50s at the minimum to have spent as much time in Nam as he claims. Maybe a Tom Cat, instead of a Seal. If the AP hack won't ask the guy for his name on his service records, I guess he doesn't have the guts to ask him how the hell old he is either.
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