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John Kerry and Dan Rather ["Pit Brothers" Part II]
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Posted on 09/13/2004 11:22:00 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

In regards to CBS and Dan Rather insisting on sticking by their story (a tall tale for sure), I offer the following which may be of interest to readers who are uncertain as to what to believe.

Additional strong factual indications that the Rather story is a sham, include the following:

• The Dallas Morning News reported Saturday that Col. Walter "Buck" Staudt, named by CBS as the individual responsible for the memo exerting pressure to “sugar coat” President Bush’s military records, was honorably discharged from the Texas Air National Guard March 1, 1972; over a year before the “dastardly memo” was supposed to have been written (August 18, 1973). Staudt, of course, was one of Rather’s “unimpeachable sources”. Confronted with this information, a CBS staff member indicated that the Colonel still ‘could have exerted influence’.

NOTE: Give me and everyone else a break, staffer! Sounds like CBS is STILL doing anything it can, including desperately scrambling to try and make its fake story fit with the truth. It’s not working. P.S. to “staffer”: After retirement, there is no residual “influence” or power on remaining active Guard officials.

• Gary Killian (son of the now deceased Lt. Col. Killian who was President Bush’s C.O. in the National Guard) advised in several interviews that the purported documents (ostensibly prepared by his father) flew in the face of everything his father had said about President George W. Bush, his father did not type and that he would never have written a memo entitled “CYA”. Gary Killian continued by saying that one of the documents was signed with only his father’s first name; something Lt. Col. Killian had never done and would not do. He further advised Mary Mapes of CBS that any documents she had were probably bogus and that his father highly respected President Bush. He also gave her the names of individuals in the Guard who worked closely with [then] Lt. George W. Bush. When Ms. Mapes asked if they were pro or con Bush, Mr. Killian told her ‘pro’. With that, Ms. Mapes ended the conversation and did not contact Gary Killian again

• Rather said (in his Friday evening broadcast on CBS) that CBS expert Marcel Matley had authenticated all 4 documents. However, Mr. Matley advised that he only reviewed one. This is, yet, another of Rather’s “unimpeachable sources.”

• Ben Barnes, Dem operative and holder of the prestigious Dem title of “Trustee”, recently said that he ‘got Bush into the Guard’. However, four years ago in sworn testimony he said that he had not. Mr. Barnes daughter, on Sean Hannity’s Friday radio program, told Hannity that her father, also, told her that he had not.

There is even more evidence that these documents are forgeries, including (but not limited to) the peculiar P.O. Box address that appears at the top of, at least, one of the documents; the address and zip code would (apparently) not have been accurate for the National Guard base in the 1970s. I’m relatively certain that more substantiation of these counterfeit papers will be presented in the next few days. However, the ones cited above should certainly be enough for some independent body to begin a full-fledged investigation of the practices employed at CBS News.

Witnessing what has been and is being perpetrated against the public (by a once major network news organization) in the name of helping John Kerry is chilling. However, one thing remains certain. Fraud is not covered under the First Amendment.


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: cbs; kerry; marymapes; rather
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Mary Mapes and Dan Rather strike again.
1 posted on 09/13/2004 11:22:01 AM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; potlatch; Smartass; devolve; JohnHuang2; Mia T
"• Rather said (in his Friday evening broadcast on CBS) that CBS expert Marcel Matley had authenticated all 4 documents. However, Mr. Matley advised that he only reviewed one. This is, yet, another of Rather’s “unimpeachable sources.”

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Dan Rather's "unimpeachable" sources - ping.

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CBS Producer Who Obtained Questionable Guard Documents Identified

2 posted on 09/13/2004 11:23:06 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (51 days until November 2nd)
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To: Happy2BMe

Bump!


3 posted on 09/13/2004 11:24:09 AM PDT by talleyman (Dan Rather is the love child of Jimmy Hoffa & Matta Hari and James Carville is a space alien - E.T.)
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To: Happy2BMe

If CBS had any real proof, like the original copy memos or eye witnesses, that would have been part of the original 60 Minutes report. Because they can’t even produce them now casts more doubt as to the authentic nature of the memos.


4 posted on 09/13/2004 11:29:36 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: Happy2BMe


5 posted on 09/13/2004 11:29:58 AM PDT by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: umgud

6 posted on 09/13/2004 11:35:39 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Cuius rei demonstrationem mirabilem sane detexi hanc marginis exiguitas non caperet.)
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To: Happy2BMe
In September 1987 Rather walked off the CBS Evening News set in protest over the network's decision to allow U.S. Open tennis coverage to cut into the broadcast. His action on this occasion left CBS with a blank screen for more than six minutes. This moment was recalled in an explosive live interview Rather conducted with then Vice-President George Bush in January 1988. When Rather pressed Bush about his contradictory claims regarding his involvement in the Iran Contra Scandal, the vice president responded by asking Rather if he would like to be judged by those minutes resulting from his decision to walk off the air.

Just an observation.

7 posted on 09/13/2004 11:36:53 AM PDT by Use It Or Lose It ("John Kerry found a way to legalize desertion." B.G. Burkett 9/12/04)
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To: tractorman

I am of the firm belief that the 'originals' have been destroyed, so they can't be traced back to their creator and can't be checked for authenticity.


8 posted on 09/13/2004 11:37:50 AM PDT by Bigh4u2
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To: Diogenesis

9 posted on 09/13/2004 11:39:31 AM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: Happy2BMe
Here you go. This is the only pic I have of Mary Mapes, now saved to my website.

The Angelfire link/pic croaked, I noticed.


10 posted on 09/13/2004 11:48:49 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Bigh4u2

I don’t think that any “originals” ever existed. There are too many things about this episode that just don’t add up.

The sloppiest forgery job ever witnessed; almost to the point of intentional inevitable exposure.

Rather’s only “proof” is the testimony of a “handwriting” expert.

It sure would be fun to watch Dan take a lie detector test.


11 posted on 09/13/2004 11:49:26 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: MeekOneGOP

BTT


12 posted on 09/13/2004 11:53:12 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (51 days until November 2nd)
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To: tractorman; NewMediaFan
The buzzards are coming home to roost at CBS - and crapping all over Dan Rather and Mary Mape's head and shoulders.

Dan Rather’s Blunder: The Day Old Media Died?

13 posted on 09/13/2004 11:54:32 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (51 days until November 2nd)
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To: Happy2BMe

Just thinking about this whole mess and wondering. If CBS got these fraudulent memos from the Kerry campaign it gets very interesting. The other media outlets, who are competitors of CBS may tell the American people what has happened and ruin CBS.

In considering this prospect, CBS may be considering blaming their source, the Kerry campaign, in order to survive. This of course is a doomsday scenario for Kerry and for the Democrats.

They are looking towards a truly destroyed campaign for the present and investigations in the future. The American people would also get to clearly see that the Dems and the major media are in bed together. Aha, the Republicans have been right all along, they would surmise. There goes the franchise for the NY Times, Wash. Post and the rest.

The individual reporters, anchors and commentators for the liberal media outlets would start to run for cover as they would want to preserve their credibility. Can you imagine what Chris Matthews, Jeff Greenfield, Peter Jennings and the rest would be forced to do?

This is possibly why CBS can not admit what they have done, although it is so completely clear to everyone else. It is akin to a Greek tragedy - the destruction of the liberal media and the Democrats at the same time because of the "New Media". Too delicious..........

The prospects are mind boggling!


14 posted on 09/13/2004 12:50:10 PM PDT by PathfinderLee
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To: Happy2BMe; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Boazo; OXENinFLA; Grampa Dave; Lady Jag; ...






GOD BLESS THE SWIFTEES - Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!

15 posted on 09/13/2004 1:02:58 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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You know Hillary is so happy she can hardly squat.


16 posted on 09/13/2004 1:09:40 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (51 days until November 2nd)
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To: Smartass


17 posted on 09/13/2004 1:09:51 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Smartass


18 posted on 09/13/2004 1:10:43 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
GURGLE, GURGLE, THE END IS NEAR...




GOD BLESS THE SWIFTEES - Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!

19 posted on 09/13/2004 1:35:27 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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20 posted on 09/13/2004 3:06:40 PM PDT by devolve ( -- John"V"Kerny scams Boston Irish voters! - http://pro.lookingat.us/FakeIrish.html --)
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