USA Today acknowledges that it independently received the documents

41 posted on 09/12/2004 10:52:54 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)

To: rolling_stone

stone, if i were to use the logic that USA TODAY used (but they did NOT print it to their credit) - I could pretend to be a disgrunted Kerry campaigner and drop off some forged documents of my own explaining how Kerry is a closet communist.

I am not that bad with photoshop either. :)

42 posted on 09/12/2004 10:53:49 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE

I was out all day today and must have missed something. Who is Burkett and how is he linked to Rathergate.

43 posted on 09/12/2004 10:56:28 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)

I am not that bad with photoshop either. :)

Yes but could your work past the Free Republic pajama clad coffee drinking left wing lunatic critics? We are talking serious examination here, not just trying to get past the old deaf dumb and blind MSM... LOL...

44 posted on 09/12/2004 10:56:55 PM PDT by rolling_stone

You know, this is very odd because the USAToday memos I seen the other day on their site was such poor quality as though they been faxed around leading me to assume they came from the WH batch that CBS had faxed. I just wonder if some clown had gotton a early copy from CBS and tried to pretend he was the source and faxed them to USAToday? Everything about this story is suspect.

45 posted on 09/12/2004 10:59:22 PM PDT by The Bandit

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John Kerry, director of the Vietnam Veterans against the War,
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Jane Fonda tells the student audience at the Michigan State University in 1969:

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John F. Kerry Timeline of a traitor

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html

Kerry's disrespect in 1971
to USA Symbols Video

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46 posted on 09/12/2004 11:00:35 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOUR YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)

To: rolling_stone

thats the trick stone.

In a way, I dont believe it would get passed (well, it would get no air time) the MSM. Think juanita broderick.

The MSM is in collusion with the DNC and is nothing more than a mouthpiece for it. That is the honest to God truth.

Need more evidence then how they treated the swift vets vs these forged docs?

47 posted on 09/12/2004 11:00:39 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE

If the documents are indeed forgeries (and it looks like they probably are) then they obviously come from , are sponsored and/or underwritten by the DNC. But the greatest use the DNC could put them to would be this: these documents could be used as a trial balloon to see if a clever (but not clever enough) forgery could pass muster once released to the media and public. The ultimate objective could be to then forge some clamored-for Kerry documents at the 11th hour in the same way and using the same techniques. If the fake Bush docs could pass unnoticed and still be taken as real, then they could get away with the fake Kerry docs.

48 posted on 09/12/2004 11:04:17 PM PDT by willyboyishere

- I could pretend to be a disgrunted Kerry campaigner and drop off some forged documents of my own explaining how Kerry is a closet communist.

I think they already know.

49 posted on 09/12/2004 11:04:25 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)

It appears that the CBS and USA Today documents are different in many respects.

Hopefully our sleuths are now carefully comparing both sets.

In addition to missing the underlines in the CBS documents, the USA Today and CBS documents seem to have different markings or scribbles (were these supposed to be initials?) in the bottom right-hand corner of the following documents:

the May 19th memo and the August 18th memo

50 posted on 09/12/2004 11:05:15 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)

TO: editor@usatoday.com

FROM: forger@moveon.org

SUBJECT: AWOL

Here are the Docs we spoke about at the fundraiser. By the way, thanks again for the generous donation. -F

51 posted on 09/12/2004 11:05:39 PM PDT by montag813

To: TASMANIANRED

It is being reported that a possible source for the docs was a TANG member named Burkett. Apparently, he has had two nervous breakdowns and has applied, unsuccessfully for monetary damages from the Guard and is "disgruntled". Like I said before, even if the docs came from this guy, somebody helped push them. It will be interesting to see what happens this week!

52 posted on 09/12/2004 11:05:46 PM PDT by sixxiron

Watergate WAS amateur hour....

53 posted on 09/12/2004 11:08:02 PM PDT by jnarcus

"You know, this is very odd because the USAToday memos I seen the other day on their site was such poor quality as though they been faxed around leading me to assume they came from the WH batch that CBS had faxed."

The USA Today reduced their quality. Yesterday the documents were 484K, today they are about 80K. I have posted the orignal higher quality docs on my website temporarily at challengerdisaster.info I apologize for the site it is under development.

54 posted on 09/12/2004 11:08:21 PM PDT by charleston1 (No prisoners.)

ROFLMAO the DUmmies are going crazy saying these two docs are the smoking gun going to do in Bush..they still don't realize they are forgeries..LOL...are people really that stupid and can vote?

55 posted on 09/12/2004 11:09:20 PM PDT by rolling_stone

I don't care what revelation they come out with next they have lost all credibility.

56 posted on 09/12/2004 11:09:40 PM PDT by tiki (Win one against the Flipper)

Hmm, so three major news outlets received the same documents independently?

I say three because I believe the Boston Globe also received them as well.

And The Boston Globe and cBS says the timing is NOW beacuse they've been working on this for years.

57 posted on 09/12/2004 11:10:17 PM PDT by feedback doctor (GW Bush is home, and the lights are on!)

have you compared the CBS and USA Today sets to any extent?

58 posted on 09/12/2004 11:10:38 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)

To: Lancey Howard

You are hired to do rewrite and fact checking....oh wait a moment...you are too qualified you actually understand the issue....BWAHAHAHHAHA well done excellent blue pencil work

59 posted on 09/12/2004 11:11:33 PM PDT by jnarcus

Folks, the DNC is involved in this, and this makes Watergate look like amateur hour.

Or a 1^strate burglary.

60 posted on 09/12/2004 11:12:38 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)

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