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USA Today acknowledges that it independently received the documents
USA Today | 9/13/04

Posted on 09/12/2004 10:18:12 PM PDT by ambrose

USA Today acknowledges that it indepedently received the documents


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; forgery; john; kerny; killian; napalminthemorning; rather; rathergate; seebsnews; tang
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To: FairOpinion

Isn't it strange that the only typed memos (even though Killian didn't type) by Killian were about George W. Bush? If Killian typed all these copious notes about Bush, wouldn't there also be a MYRIAD of other memos that he typed up? OK, so where are they so the typing can be compared?


121 posted on 09/13/2004 3:55:45 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (I hereby nominate Buckhead as the FREEPER OF THE YEAR!!!)
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To: ambrose
Here's my take on the effect on the elections FWIW: Anyone still undecided will chalk this up to "politics is dirty, that's why I don't vote" and stay home.

At worse, it's a wash for both candidates.

122 posted on 09/13/2004 3:59:43 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: PJ-Comix
I believe Barbra Streisand is behind it.

That's why Dan Rather is so confident about the documents authenticity.

Unfortunately for them, neither one of them or their ferns have a clue as to how the military communicates but they do have great faith in their own genius.

123 posted on 09/13/2004 4:02:31 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: NYCVirago
I wouldn't read anything into the address being blacked out. It was clear that CBS did that for either confidentiality or CYA reasons, but they did such a bad job of blacking the address out that it was still readable.

the documents are not even identical, as another poster pointed out. The dots or specks on the pages are not in the same place. this is almost comical the diffences in the supposed same memo
124 posted on 09/13/2004 4:09:33 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: Always Right
I certainly don't know who forged them but I do know that he was an increditably incompetent forger. How in the world did he think he could get away with such amateurish tricks, and CBS, USA must have wanted them to be authentic so bad that they bought this ruse.
125 posted on 09/13/2004 4:12:20 AM PDT by my right
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To: ambrose

Seems that the Glob and USAToday were duped too--or was it intentional? Enquiring minds want to know!


126 posted on 09/13/2004 4:38:29 AM PDT by twntaipan (CBS News: The News of Choice of Frauds and Forgers Everywhere!)
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To: my right

By DNC standards "Operation fortunate son" is a success regardless of being exposed as forgeries beause the media have been SUCKERS and are STILL reporting the story.

EVEN FOX.


They are not discussing the new Swiftvets ad about kerry in his own words saying he threw 8-9 medals. Not ribbons.

we have already debunked teh next phase of "fortunate son" here on FR but the news outlets are 24hours behind the information curve.


127 posted on 09/13/2004 4:50:05 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: sixxiron

Burkett claimed in '99 I think that he stumbled on a session of Bush's guard record(in Austin???) being scrubbed of negative stuff & that he noticed Bush ANG docs sticking out of a trashcan. Don't forget he hates Bush, the TX Guard & America itself(from his posted rantings).

Another thread said Burkett was ARMY Guard, not Air Guard. This poster said he would've had no access to AIR Guard records(real, not forged).

What was Burkett's access to ANY Guard records, is my ? Unless it was to check his own records for the lawsuits he brought against the TX Guard?

Burkett is Looney Left and filled with rage.

Makes a perfect Democrat.


128 posted on 09/13/2004 4:51:43 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Carling
Where is the MSM outrage for being used as SUCKERS?

Where is the MSM effort to expose the source of the forgeries? Forgeries have no 1st amendment privilege protection.

Reporters should be asking if they are journalists or just DNC retypists.
129 posted on 09/13/2004 4:53:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: TASMANIANRED

See #128


130 posted on 09/13/2004 4:53:41 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: ambrose
Two words.

Mail Fraud.

131 posted on 09/13/2004 4:55:03 AM PDT by VRWC_minion ( I'll send email telling you where to send check.)
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To: my right

I know most folks, including myself, are fully convinced the documents are fake, but the 24 June 1973 memo offers more proof.

1. The forger forgot to put "Houston, Texas 77034" in the centered header (LOL)!

2. The superscripted "th" shows up in the header.

3. The superscripted "th", being a smaller font, takes up less space than the normal "th" seen on prior headers. Because of this, the line is a bit shorter, so it is centered differently. Fire up Microsoft Word and you will see that the centering of this document matches how Word does it.


132 posted on 09/13/2004 5:03:01 AM PDT by Toskrin (War least of all goes according to plan.)
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To: PJ-Comix

BINGO! Where are other documents by Killian. Hmm. You mean that only these 4 documents from Killian's personal file made it 30 years plus. (Even though his wife and son have said that he never kept such files)


133 posted on 09/13/2004 5:13:01 AM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: Bogey78O
I printed the document out that had the PO Box 34567. I gave it to my 16 year old daughter. I said: "What do you think of this? Think this is real?" Unaware of the current events (as I confirmed later), she looked at it for about 3 minutes and said: "Looks fake to me. The post office box is bogus." She didn't notice the font and centering issue because she has never used and hardly seen a typewriter in her life.

Kids today are very tuned into the internet slight of hand.
134 posted on 09/13/2004 5:14:01 AM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: twntaipan

twn,

I firmly believe that based on what I have seen this year during the 9/11 hearings, the good economic news being shouted down, the convention reviews and now this - that the media is nothing more than a wing of the DNC.

The only difference is, this year with rathergate, we now have actual proof how they are colluding. Not just simple bias, but how the media is colluding and taking the DNC talking points.

Anyone wondering if the "gang of 500" have their hands in the middle of this?

Gee, I wonder why the MSM have not opened themselves upto the public and discussed WHO the "gang of 500" are and how they are manipulating the news cycles/colluding with the kerry campaign.


135 posted on 09/13/2004 5:17:21 AM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: ambrose

Appears that the folks at the USA Today did not run with them after they received them; they probably new they were forgeries from the beginning.


136 posted on 09/13/2004 5:18:37 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: IamConservative

I thought the Post Office Boc was legitmate based on other older memo released by Bush43 and not CBS? Has that changed since Friday?


137 posted on 09/13/2004 5:20:56 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: ambrose
In one paragraph, USA Today says the WH gave copies of the memos to reporters in an e-mail. USA Today does not say it is among that group, but it would be strange if USA Today admitted not having a reporter covering the WH. Whoever was shopping these around may have been using multiple avenues, and maybe two of those avenues converged on USA Today. The scope of fraud widens!
138 posted on 09/13/2004 5:21:42 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: hawkaw

I could be wrong. I thought it had been discussed that the military used physical addresses exclusively and did not use PO boxes.

Hard to keep things straight in the whirlwind of lies coming out of the TV.


139 posted on 09/13/2004 5:24:43 AM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: PigRigger
Ok.

So what in the hell does 'received the memos independently mean?

Were they flown in with no name attached?

Did they drop out of the sky?

Were they sent via snail mail...with NO RETURN address?

Who receieved them at USA TODAY?

What the HECK does received 'independently MEAN?

Is this an attempt to once again, PROTECT the source?

WHY?

If someone has something to say that can hurt a sitting US President, should not the NAME of that person or his or her organization be STATED?

What IS this crap ' independently received', anyway?

Sounds like a danny rather < squishy, evasive, circle the wagons >statement.

140 posted on 09/13/2004 5:26:02 AM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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