And I think I like it.
Posted on 09/10/2004 8:03:05 PM PDT by jhouston
Dan Rather vigorously defended his "60 Minutes" story on President Bush's National Guard service yesterday, saying the 30-year-old memos he disclosed on the show this week "were and remain authentic," despite questions raised by some handwriting and document experts.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
There is NO post office in zip code 77034 Houston Texas as was listed in return address for the fake docs.
The Post Office in Houston with zip code 77034 discontinued operations September 14, 1962
The address listed on return address on those docs is a FAKE!
I don't think this WashingtonComPost is all that great.
It begins by repeating all the stale old charges, which will presumably appear on the front page, and it puts all the questions after that, where they will appear on a back page.
Not only that, but it fails to point out that Rather's excuses are ridiculous. Readers can judge for themselves, but the Post refrains from making the obvious judgments.
Yes, Times Roman was available then, but only to compositors. And Times New Roman, which Microsoft has pushed, was a later font that with many small but noticeable differences from Times Roman. The font and the proportional spacing are NOT obscured by the copy blurring.
The beauty of this story, is that probably in the end, we will find out one way or the other. The old typewriters will be unearthed that had all these bells and whistles, and the kernel thingie will have to be addressed, if there is a kernel thingie in the memos. In the meantime, all one can do is sit back and watch the bleeding.
Captain Dan needs to go back to the shrimp boats
Sean Hannity had Gary Killian, the son of Lt. Col Jerry Killian on his show today. Gary said he recieved a call weeks ago from Mary Mapes asking about the documents. He named her by name. She revealed to him in the call that she thought the documents weren't real. Gary told Hannity he was shocked that See-BS aired the story anyway. That doesn't bode well for See-BS's credibility.
Yes, and why would they do that? He was interviewed by Rather tonight!
If you are correct, you need to document it, unless you got it from somewhere else, and get the info to the usual "right wing" suspects. You could get as much renoun as post number 47 did.
He's busy gnawing on the ropes.
analysis of the bush memo
http://img41.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img41&image=60minbusted.swf
This is more fun than a barrel of Monica Lewinski scandals.
Easy there, sister!
Interesting. I suppose that this is why Rather refuses to let us know the source of the memos. We might see where this story is coming from and draw judgements about what the motivations are. Oh wait, I think I just did!
ABC aint buyin it either.....
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/NotedNow/Noted_Now.html
HODGES SAID HE WAS MISLED BY CBS: Retired Maj. General Hodges, Killian's supervisor at the Grd, tells ABC News that he feels CBS misled him about the documents they uncovered. According to Hodges, CBS told him the documents were "handwritten" and after CBS read him excerpts he said, "well if he wrote them that's what he felt."
Hodges also said he did not see the documents in the 70's and he cannot authenticate the documents or the contents. His personal belief is that the documents have been "computer generated" and are a "fraud".
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/002483.php#c15399
IBM Executive (proportional spacing)
http://www.well.com/user/smalin/typinwhy.htm
excerpt:
"The IBM Executive typewriter I found at a garage sale was magnificent, and (having been long since replaced by the Selectric), dirt cheap. Only somebody with a PhD in secretarial skills could operate it. It was a proportional spacing machine: an 'm' was five spaces wide, an 'i' was two. There were two separate space bars (two and three spaces respectively). To correct a mistake, you had to know the width of all the characters involved so that you could backspace the appropriate amount (backspace was the only single-space key on the machine). There was an arcane procedure for producing justified type which involved typing a page a first time (while using a special guide to measure where the lines ended), noting the extra spaces that needed to be added, marking the copy to show where two-width spaces would be replaced with three-width spaces (or, in the worst case, two two-width spaces), and typing the page a second time. Even loading the ribbon (it was one of the first carbon ribbon machines on the market) was a major challenge: its rimless reels would spill their contents at the slightest mishandling, and the thin (less than 1/2" wide) tape had to be threaded through bewildering series of slots, grooves, carriers, and guides. It was a machine only a fanatic could love, and I did. I made regular trips to Santa Barbara's IBM parts center, and spent hours with tweezers, probes, hooks, needle-nosed pliers and other fine tools, getting it working right."
Just the kind of thing to whip off a memo with ... NOT!
VERY good! I think you have a real grasp of the situation!
Oh, yes, we certainly are, Danny Boy.
Yes it is! Watching the Freeper Davids slinging rocks at the CBS Goliath, until he's bloodied and toppling over!
Perhaps--just wish I had a little more sadistic blood in order to enjoy it!
The Post Office in Houston with zip code 77034 discontinued operations September 14, 1962
The address listed on return address on those docs is a FAKE!"
This info needs to be in a thread by itself.
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