Posted on 09/10/2004 3:39:42 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
KVI Talk radio talking about the Producer of 60 Min II. Mary Mapes (sp) Her father is being interviews right now. He is ashamed of her.
Killian's son will be on, and he knows his stuff!
Take it from an ex AF Personnel Specialist (5 Level)!
This thread reminds me of a very interesting article I read the other day.
Mary Mapes was the producer of a hotly debated interview with Shawn Allen Berry, one of the men who murdered James Byrd. The James Byrd of the despicable ACLU commercials from the 2000 campaign.
CBS turns over interview with murder defendant
Ms. Mapes was subject to a contempt order that would have sent her to jail if she hadn't turned over the interview.
Baltimore Sun May 5, 2004
The decisions behind the Abu Ghraib story were made largely by Jeffrey Fager, the executive producer of 60 Minutes II in consultation with Rather and CBS News president Andrew Heyward. As Fager tells it, his choice involved a tricky balance of competitive drive and civic obligations. He knew that producers Dana Roberson and Mary Mapes had an explosive story. And Fager was soon being asked to sit on the story temporarily by an Army colonel, and by other Pentagon brass. Fager agreed, for a week. On April 20, the night before the second chance to run the story on 60 Minutes II, Myers called Rather personally to ask him to hold off running the story a second time. CBS once more agreed.
Amazing when Killian's son said that the woman didn't want the name of one of Bush's fellow pilots because he was to "pro bush"
KVI's John Carlson said Mary Mapes use to be a News producer at KIRO TV in Seattle until moving on to CBS 60 Minutes about 10-12 years ago. He worked with her and said she was the most liberal person at KIRO and had a very leftist view when producing the news program. John said when he heard the story break at CBS, that he bet Mary Mapes is behind it. It has been announced that Mary was the one to go out and obtain the bogus documents.
Mary's father just called the John Carlson show. I was expecting him to give John He$# for talking about his daughter, but he said he is ashamed of her. He knows of her leftist views.
This is getting gooder and gooder! pass the popcorn!
Wonder if she was the one who screamed at the Freeper who called CBS last night.
Mary Mapes is DEFINITELY behind the story, this is who I told Sean Hannity got the documents. She also obtained the Abu Ghraib photos.
Also, for all you journalism junkies who like the "inside baseball" of how a major media outlet (in this case CBS News's 60 Minutes II) interacts with the Pentagon as it's about to break a big scandal, here's the exchange between Charlie and Mary Mapes, the producer of the 60 Minutes II story that appeared last week. Ms. Mapes's key point is her claim that 60 Minutes II sat on the story at the Pentagon's request for over 2 weeks, showing it only after they discovered the photographs were about to leak in other media outlets and after they informed the Pentagon of this fact and of their intent to air the report finally.So, that's how that played out. We shall see if Ms. Mapes recollection of how these memos have precisely came about is as sharp as how the Abu Ghraib story "broke".CHARLIE ROSE: Mary, let me just go first to you. Tell me about this story coming to 60 Minutes II because it has gotten such enormous play---how it came to you---and the relationship---because Dan [Rather] said at the end of the broadcast that there had been communication with the military, and you had been sitting on the story for whatever reason. MARY MAPES: Well, we first got word of this---I think it was in mid-February---and I work with an associate producer Dana Roberson---Dana got the first tip---and we ended up chasing it, chasing it halfway around the world and back again. Trying not just to chase the rumors of it, but---but to find out what the reality of it. And in the beginning, a lot of it was whispered accounts of pictures that existed somewhere, an investigation that was going somewhere against someone, and we were able luckily to narrow that down and get our hands on the pictures which really gave us our first real hard proof that this was real. CHARLIE ROSE: And what was the conflict within? Tell me about the journalistic decision to go with it. I mean, what did you need before you were willing to go with it? How much pressure was there not to do... to do it? What kind of communication with the Pentagon? MARY MAPES: Well, we were always going to go with the story. I mean, once we had the facts of the story and the pictures and---and what we felt the context in which we could put the story, we were ready to go with it. When we contacted the Army, and I think this was the---we delayed the story 2 weeks as part of the process and continued to gather information along the way---but---when we first spoke with the Army about providing a spokesperson, which they felt they needed to do, they didnt have anyone on hand they said who could speak to us at a high enough level about it and ultimately they asked: Please, could you wait until we have a general here or someone who could speak knowledgeably about it. And they also raised concerns about the hostages and Fallujah and the situation in Iraq. And we thought it would be the better part of valor to defer the story for a week, which we did. And then the second week came along and we kind of got the same sort of response from the Pentagon, that they wanted more time for the hostage or Fallujah situation to play itself out, and we got from high levels in the Pentagon a request that we hold it. And then the third week, the week we ran it, we made the decision early on that we were going to run it, in part because---and we had spoken to the Pentagon about this---the pictures were beginning to leak out and the story was beginning to leak out, and it was, um, time to go.
It seems to me that we are going to hear 1) a lot of denials and 2) a lot of "I don't recall"s.
Don't forget the diet coke and the candy bar, we'll need it.
CHARLIE ROSE: Mary, let me just go first to you. Tell me about this story coming to 60 Minutes II because it has gotten such enormous play---how it came to you---and the relationship---because Dan [Rather] said at the end of the broadcast that there had been communication with the military, and you had been sitting on the story for whatever reason.MARY MAPES: Well, we first got word of this---I think it was in mid-February---and I work with an associate producer Dana Roberson---Dana got the first tip---and we ended up chasing it, chasing it halfway around the world and back again. Trying not just to chase the rumors of it, but---but to find out what the reality of it. And in the beginning, a lot of it was whispered accounts of pictures that existed somewhere, an investigation that was going somewhere against someone, and we were able luckily to narrow that down and get our hands on the pictures which really gave us our first real hard proof that this was real.
CHARLIE ROSE: And what was the conflict within? Tell me about the journalistic decision to go with it. I mean, what did you need before you were willing to go with it? How much pressure was there not to do... to do it? What kind of communication with the Pentagon?
MARY MAPES: Well, we were always going to go with the story. I mean, once we had the facts of the story and the pictures and---and what we felt the context in which we could put the story, we were ready to go with it. When we contacted the Army, and I think this was the---we delayed the story 2 weeks as part of the process and continued to gather information along the way---but---when we first spoke with the Army about providing a spokesperson, which they felt they needed to do, they didnt have anyone on hand they said who could speak to us at a high enough level about it and ultimately they asked: Please, could you wait until we have a general here or someone who could speak knowledgeably about it. And they also raised concerns about the hostages and Fallujah and the situation in Iraq. And we thought it would be the better part of valor to defer the story for a week, which we did. And then the second week came along and we kind of got the same sort of response from the Pentagon, that they wanted more time for the hostage or Fallujah situation to play itself out, and we got from high levels in the Pentagon a request that we hold it. And then the third week, the week we ran it, we made the decision early on that we were going to run it, in part because---and we had spoken to the Pentagon about this---the pictures were beginning to leak out and the story was beginning to leak out, and it was, um, time to go.
Online NewsHour: Free Press vs. Fair Trial -- November 12, 1999
Over here. Post #4 and 5. Did we know this? LOL
You can have some of mine if you like extra butter. LOL
I hate to see families in discord but thank him for telling the truth about his daughter!
Amazing, all that hell earlier over Abu grabib and we're now learning it's source. Dems are crashing.
How I miss KVI!!!!!! I moved away from the Puget Sound in February and haven't found anything as good as that station. You don't know how good you have it with KVI!
Mary Mapes is DEFINITELY behind the story, this is who I told Sean Hannity got the documents. She also obtained the Abu Ghraib photos.
Very tasty, Mr. Gannon
You've been keeping the libbers on the ropes for awhile now. Keep on stroking! Hot damn it's good to have you on our side.
" Mary Mapes had an explosive story. "
I suspect we will be hearing much more about Ms. Mapes.
There are two polls on the subject on CNN.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
Should Dan Rather and CBS News reveal the sources of the Bush memos?
Yes 35% 282 votes
No 65% 519 votes
Total: 801 votes
AND
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/wolf.blitzer.reports/
Do you think the recently released memos on President Bush's National Guard service are authentic?
Yes 52% 65829 votes
No 48% 61920 votes
Total: 127749 votes
If you are so inclined, CNN needs a little FR power!
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