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While police brutality is never to be condoned

If you agree with that, you're in denial about what happened here. I've seen your explanations above in this thread, and they don't match what's been reported and what happened. (A friend of mine from college got arrested while PHOTOGRAPHING one of these protests, and he's no liberal, so I know what I'm talking about.) I also don't agree with your rationalizing away illegally long detention periods, denial of medicine, filthy conditions, or physical abuse through tightening of handcuffs.

I have a friend with Crohn's disease so I can't be blase about this kind of behavior. I rely on daily medications myself. If you think that these people got what they deserved, and it's okay to treat them the way they were treated without respect for their rights, then there's no point in our discussing anything. I don't know where you live, but I'm in a deep-blue state with a union-heavy police force, so I can't count on being on the "comfortable" side of the debate when push comes to shove.

Civil rights are civil rights, police brutality is police brutality.

I was born in NYC and lived there for most of my life. I recently moved out. The NYPD is the finest, fairest police force on the planet. They are constantly slandered by the liberal media. That is exactly what is happening here.

There is a difference between police brutality and being housed in less than ideal conditions. Anybody who wanted to avoid such conditions had the opportunity of walking away at any time.